M = Media
N = News
RS = Radio Session
TV = Television Appearence
The Seahorses = Release

1996 - John Squire creates the art:
‘Cornflakes and Pink Alginate’ (plaster of paris, packing crate, 14x10inches)
‘Do It Yourself‘ (plaster bandage, clay, cellulose and acrylic)
‘Love ls The Law’ (acrylic on calico with clay and epoxy resin, 28x28inches)
‘WarchiId Surfboard’ (vinyl lettering on polypropylene, 8 foot by 3 foot).

M - 20 April 1996 - John Squire appears on the cover of the NME (New Musical Express) Magazine
Notes: John hints on forming a new band and touring, this would turn out to be the Seahorses. See Media for the article.
“Steve (Adge, The Roses’ former tour manager) is telling me that we should be gigging in August, but, y’ know. That would be good, I’d like that. It all depends on how long it takes to recruit the rest of the band because I don’t want to rush into it for the sake of it and have some sham of a band for one album and then flake away and do something else next year. I want it to be a long-term thing. So providing I can find everyone quick enough, then August isn’t out of the question; but I know from past experience that it’s unwise to specify dates. But I’ll try and be more punctual now.”
From January 1997 - The Stone Roses feature in Q Magazine, Mani said: "When John left, they split the deal between Johnny's band and us," Mounfield explains. "At the time, it might have made business sense. Geffen don't hold it against us that we decided to fold, because it isn't fair to trade as The Stone Roses. We ain't any more."

1996 - John Squire solo show
Notes: John played only brand new songs, which would eventually become Seahorses tracks. He played under a pseudonym but Shaun Ryder and Bez appeared at the show cheering him on.

April 1996 - John Squire approached Stuart Fletcher at The Blueflies show at The Fibbers, York
Notes: John was out with his Guitar Technician, Martin Herbet in York. Martin took John to Fibbers to see blues cover band The Blueflies. Stuart only joined the band at short notice to fill in for there injured bass player. John approached Stuart, aged 20, after the show.
From 20 April 1996 - John Squire appears on the cover of the NME (New Musical Express) Magazine: John said: “I went out to get pissed the night I left and I saw him playing. I arranged to meet him and he gave me a demo tape, which was really good. I gave him a few songs to see what he’s like at thinking on his feet and to see how creative he is. Depending on how that turns out, I might have my first recruit.” Squire is also considering a drummer that he has in mind. “I’m going to a gig in Birmingham to see him. But he’s not a Brummie, I think he’s from Ipswich, or something. But he sounds good. I’ve decided that I don’t even want to get into rehearsals until I’ve seen people playing live. So that’s the only criteria."
From Stuart Fletcher interview by Matt Mead published 11 February 2019: How did you join The Seahorses? I’d been asked to dep for a local blues band due to their regular bass player suffering from tendonitis. The guitarist Miles Gilderdale (Acoustic Alchemy) came round to my house on the day of the gig and we ran through the set for a couple of hours before heading off to play. It was the day John Squire left the Roses and he didn’t want to be in Manchester. His tech lived in York and they came to the gig. After the show John approached me and asked if I wanted to join his band. I had no idea who he was but I was a bit of a band whore so said yes. It was only after he left that people were coming up to me asking if I knew who that was..
Were you a fan of The Stone Roses before joining? I really liked the track Love Spreads but didn’t have any albums. When John arranged to come round to my house, I borrowed Second Coming from Alan Leach (Shed Seven’s drummer) as he lived at the bottom of my street, just so I could have it in my collection. Incidentally, Shed’s singer Rick Witter bought me the Roses first album because he was so appalled that I didn’t own it. Also, while we’re on the subject of Shed Seven, Paul Banks (guitar) kindly put me up in his house for 6 months when a rogue landlord sold his house and kicked me out without warning. We started a band with Maxi from Audioweb who later went on to play drums with Ian Brown. Looking back, I think the Shed’s lads were more excited about me playing with John than I was. Ha ha.
Were you ever able to spend time with John as a friend? I don’t think John had friends in any traditional sense, he certainly wouldn’t have classed me as one. I respected him a great deal but he is difficult to have any sort of conversation with. He’s really not the “hanging out” type.
From 18 May 1997 - Sunday Mail, Scottish Daily Record: "I went out to a local pub and here was this kid playing bass. He was just standing in for the real bass player who was ill. "He was brilliant - so I asked if he wanted to join me," said John. "The cool thing about him was he didn't know who I was and didn't much care for the Stone Roses."

11 May 1996 - John Squire collaborates with Liam Gallagher on Love Me And Leave Me
Notes: John co-wrote the lyrics with Liam Gallagher at the Oasis frontman’s house after watching Manchester United defeat Liverpool 1-0 in the F.A. Cup final.
From 26 April 1997 Saturday - NME Magazine (New Musical Express): Meanwhile, another songwriting contributor made his way on to the new album. On a song called ‘Love Me And Leave Me’, co-written by one Liam Gallagher.
“Yeah, I went round to his after the Cup Final last year. We wrote this song together and I changed the lyrics a bit, but it’s basically the same song. Talking about supergroups, I would have started a group with Liam. But he was a bit busy, obviously. I’m sure we’ll write more songs together, though.”

May 1996 Sunday - Chris Helme is busking outside Woolworths, York
Notes: John's Guitar Technician, Martin Herbet spotted, 25 year old, Chris Helme singing in the high street. Martin approached Chris and they exchanged contact details. Chris was previously in a band called Dirty Monkey.
From 18 May 1997 - Sunday Mail, Scottish Daily Record: "I saw him outside Woolworths. I was a bit worried because he closed his eyes when he sang and only folk singers do that," he said.
From May 1997 - Melody Maker Magazine: “I was in a few bands before, yeah.I suppose I was doing stuff kind of like The Seahorses.
“Those songs I heard?” barks John. “You’re saying it was the same as this band?” “No, you’re thinking of the other band,” says Chris. “Dirty Monkey – they were a bit like this band.”

June 1996 - John Squire auditions Sean O'Brien
Notes: Sean O'Brien was previously a member of Warrington group The Steamboat Band.

June 1996 - John Squire auditions Chris Helme
Notes: John's Guitar Technician, Martin Herbet contacts Chris for an audition with John for a new project.

June 1996 - Squire forms The Seahorses
Notes:
26 April 1997 Saturday - Seahorses appear on the front cover of NME Magazine (New Musical Express): You suspect he likes his mysticism, though. A silver sea horse hangs round his neck, a magical symbol if I’m not mistaken. A marine biologist writes that the sea horse is the only species in the animal kingdom where the male gets pregnant. Is this a clue that there’s more to John Squire’s legendary powers than we first presumed?
“I just kept seeing them everywhere. I dreamt about them a couple of times, then I went to this bar and they had cocktail stirrers in the shape of seahorses. I looked in a dream dictionary and it said, ‘Symbol for travel and adventure’. Then I looked in an encyclopaedia and it said a lot of people think they’re fantasy creatures. So they were ideas that appealed to me.”
And the fact that ‘The Seahorses’ was an anagram of ‘He Hates Roses’, perchance? “No, I’m no good at Countdown. I never do crosswords. So is it an exact anagram then?”
I rearrange the letters. It is. Oooer. “Well, that’s a hell of a coincidence, I suppose, but I don’t hate the Roses. I’m proud of what we did, and our heritage.”
From 2001 I Am Without Shoes Exclusive Mani Interview: > IAWS: Was any Seahorses material demoed by the Roses? Mani: Well, that whole album was written during the Roses. I used to hear the demos coming out of John’s room. IAWS: … And when you knocked on the door, the tape went off? Mani: Yeah, the guy had his own agenda, what can you say?
From John Squire Interview 18 May 1997 - Sunday Mail, Scottish Daily Record: "Someone pointed out that The Seahorses was an anagram for He Hates Roses," said John. "That's pure coincidence. I chose the name because at the time, I kept seeing them everywhere and because some people think they don't exist. They are unusual because it is the male of the species who gets pregnant."
From February 1998 - Uncut magazine Ian Brown interview: By the time of the last Roses shows, your singing was getting pilloried in the press while John was being proclaimed as the last guitar hero. “Yeah, ‘The Unforgettable Squire’. And he read that and believed it. ‘I’m doing it all on my own.’ That’s one of the last things I said to him, ‘Do it yourself’. That’s what he’s done – surrounded himself with three buskers, a little Elvis, and he’s pay rolling them to kiss his arse. Although I notice he’s already managed to squeeze out one drummer.”

June 1996 - John Squire, Chris Helme & Stuart Fletcher Rehearsals, Cottage, Coniston, Lake District, Cumbria
Notes: Locations included John Squire's home in the Lake District.
From Stuart Fletcher interview by Matt Mead published 11 February 2019: What were the early days of the Seahorses like? The early days were great. It was just myself, John and Chris Helme and there was a real sense of excitement and a lot of writing going on. We were staying in these beautiful cottages in the Lake District with new equipment set up in the living rooms and 4-track recorders in each room...What was it like rehearsing with John Squire in the early days? John was not into jamming at all although he did sometimes sit in. He would record us endlessly and go up to his room. He would take the bits he liked and write parts to it and put structure in then we’d work on it again the next day. Rehearsals were also very stop start sometimes as John would often be trying new guitars or amps out. He loved the idea of working with Leslie cabs but they were like massive cabinets and a right arse to carry. He eventually got these ones that were the size of an amp head but because it was John he had about three or four and they were always cranked up.
Did John have all of the songs ready for the debut album? Not at all. I think he had four or five initial ideas when he first approached me. Chris wrote as many as John during those early rehearsals and John’s were constantly been updated and reworked. I would write some sections to finish songs off such as the chords in the solo of Around the Universe or the outro for Love Is The Law or the string parts and bass melody in Standing On Your Head and he would also lyric and key test in his room with Chris, basically geting Chris to sing the lines, and he would check if he liked them or needed to change them. In other words, they were gradually written over the course of two or three months with contributions from all of us.
June 1996 - John Squire features in Q Magazine, Q117
Notes: Article by John Harris: ...Squire has begun writing the songs for his post-Roses ensemble (he thinks he's found a bassist, discovered on a post-departure pub crawl in York, and he's looking for a drummer and a vocalist), in which he'll take the key creative role. There is, he says, no possibility of him mutating into a Johnny Marr/Bernard Butler-type freelance axe. "I've always been into the idea of a group," he says. "I don't want to be a solo artist, I want to contribute to a band."
And does he feel any degree of trepidation about starting, once again,
from the square marked "Go"? "Oh yeah. I don't take it as read that any band I assemble is going to be successful and will merit attention. It's going to require a lot of work, but it's worth the risk. I enjoy sticking my neck out." Will he be avoiding, ahem, prolonged lay-offs? "Oh yeah. But not as revenge. This is what I should be doing, and if I do it with the right people, it should be..." He pauses, just long enough for the grin to fit back on his face. "...it should be a hell of a life."

June 1996 - Mark McNeill joins the bands rehearsals.
Notes: The band recorded some demos with Mark on 4 track recorders at John's home in the Lake District.
From Stuart Fletcher interview by Matt Mead published 11 February 2019: Our first drummer (of many) was a lad called Mark McNeill who was an amazing player – think I have the very first album demos on a cassette somewhere. Unfortunately, despite sending him to rehab several times, the drugs won in the end and John had to make a decision to not proceed with him. Sadly he had to go as he couldn’t remember anything we rehearsed.

Oasis - 10 August 1996 - Knebworth, Hertfordshire
Champange Supernova (with John Squire) / I Am The Walrus (with John Squire)
Notes: John Squire appears on stage and plays additional guitar on Champagne Supernova & I Am The Walrus. Sold Out Show, 125,000 tickets sold. Chris Helme & Stuart Fletcher join John backstage for the show.
From 26 April 1997 Saturday - NME Magazine (New Musical Express): John Squire Interview: Hence, perhaps, the appearance at Knebworth. Which all seemed a bit ghostly and incongruous, truth be told…
“I had diarrhoea that day. I was dead scared I’d be caught short while I was onstage or something. You could probably tell from my ghostly complexion.
“You couldn’t really get a conception of how many people there were there, because it was just a huge mass. Spike Island with the Roses seemed bigger, because you could see everyone.”
From Stuart Fletcher interview by Matt Mead published 11 February 2019: Did you have to keep it a secret that you had joined a band with John Squire? We were invited to Knebworth in 1996 to see John play with Oasis. Chris and I had been told not to mention anything about the band. We were then left in the VIP tent backstage where all the beer was free. Being from York, we then proceeded to drink as much as we possibly could and ended up with so much bottled beer, we traded some for cigs on Radio 1’s tour bus off our faces. I think they were slightly confused who we were but we had all the right passes so it freaked them out not knowing and thankfully we managed to not spill the beans.
From February 1998 - Uncut magazine Ian Brown interview: Did you feel overshadowed by Oasis’s success? To an extent, they’d taken your blueprint. “It didn’t get me down. They’re from Manchester and good luck to them. They’re not my thing. But I’m glad that someone saw us and formed a band… at least they became the biggest. But I’ve never had to put coke up my nose to go onstage or in a studio and I can be proud of that.”

Oasis - 11 August 1996 - Knebworth, Hertfordshire
Champange Supernova (with John Squire) / I Am The Walrus (with John Squire)
Notes: John Squire appears on stage and plays additional guitar on Champagne Supernova & I Am The Walrus. Sold Out Show, 125,000 tickets sold.
From Uncut Magazine 13 May 2016, Ian Brown March 2006 Interview by Stephen Dalton: You were “gutted” when John played with Oasis at Knebworth. Is that why, when Unfinished Monkey Business came out, you branded Oasis “piss-poor” cokeheads who were “wasting all of our time”? “I said that purely just to get them at it, to get busy. I loved the fact that Oasis got massive because I felt, when the Roses hit a brick wall, if Oasis hadn’t happened it would have all been for nothing. I didn’t think they sounded like the Roses, but I always had respect for Oasis… they always said they loved the Roses, and Liam always said specifically that they loved me.”
From February 1998 - Uncut magazine Ian Brown interview: Did you steal the tune for Made of Stone from Primal Scream’s ‘Velocity Girl’? “No, I’d never heard it. John probably had, but he won’t have ripped it off because… I mean, this is what used to get me about Oasis at the start. Me and him (Squire) used to write loads of songs, but they’d be Beatles songs. We’d go, ‘Oh shit, it’s I Feel Fine’ or ‘Shit, it’s Daytripper’ and we’d sack it. Whereas these lads would just go with it. A long way!”
Official: Oasis - 1996 - There And Then (CD)
Official: Stop The Clocks (Limited Edition with bonus DVD)
Bootleg: TV Broadcast () DVD-R

1996 - Rehearsals,
From Stuart Fletcher interview by Matt Mead published 11 February 2019: Was there any element of jamming together as a band or was there a strict regime of playing? I do have recordings of us jamming where John would sit in and solo for a bit until he got bored, then he’d just leave us to it.
The name is a curious case. Conspiracy theories say that The Seahorses is an anagram for "He Hates Roses" or "The Rose Ashes". But Squire said it really has to do with the aquatic animal.

October 1996 - Andy Watts joins the band on drums
Notes: Several drummers were auditioned before finally recruiting Andy Watts, who had previously gigged with Stuart Fletcher and also knew Chris Helme. The delay in recruiting a drummer was due to Squire's desire to get a drummer who, like Reni, could also sing backing vocals. Andy's first show was only a few weeks to go, see 27 November 1996.
From March 2002 - I Am Without Shoes (thestoneroses.net) Interview with Andy Watts: IAWS: How did you come to be in The Seahorses? AW: Well, I was in a band with Stu [Fletcher] years ago, and John wanted a singing drummer. So basically through past tenuous historic connections. I also knew Chris, but Stuart was the main protagonist in getting me involved.

October 1996 - Geffen/Management are in talks with Steve Albini to produce the new material
Notes: Steve Adge tries to persuade Geffen to hire Albini, but he declined due to a busy work schedule.

24 November 1996 - John Squire's 34th birthday

John Squire - Guitar
Chris Helme - Vocals & Guitar
Stuart Fletcher - Bass Guitar
Andy Watts - Drummer & Backing Vocals
Steve Adge - Management

John Squire Guitars
1959 Stewart Palmer Black Les Paul Custom
Gordon-Smith GS 12-string
From June 1997 - The Guitar Magazine: For live use, he mostly totes a black ’59 Les Paul Custom; ‘They were sold as ‘fretless wonders’, weren’t they,’ he comments. ‘When I first bought it the frets were like chewing gum wrappers, so I had some high ones put in. It’s now got Sperzel machineheads, and I replaced the bridge ’cos the old ones’ saddles fall out every time you change the strings. It’s not quite as worm as the sunburst ’59 was – it’s a bit more spiky. And I don’t use or need the three pickups, to be honest… I keep the selector down (Voicing middle and treble humbuckers) all the time.’
Squire’s natural finish ‘Les Paul Custom’ isn’t, in fact, a Gibson at all, but a custom-ordered guitar built for Squire by Doncaster-based luthier Stewart Palmer.
‘I don’t think of it as a Custom,’ Palmer tells TGM, I think of it as a ’59 Les Paul with an extra middle pick-up. It took about a year to make, on and off; it’s as close as we could get to a ’59 spec. We used one-piece.
Brazilian mahogony for the back and neck, and a flamed maple top; even the headstock facing is wholly like the originals. John was very specific, he wanted it top be exactly the same. We used Brazilian rosewood, which is really hard to get hold of, for the fingerboard and it’s got crown inlays with high gauge (Jim Dunlop 6100) fretwire. If I remember correctly, the pickups are ’57 Classics – the ones Gibson used on the Historic Collection guitars.
The natural finish was a foible of Squire’s. ‘I like the feel of a plain oiled neck, but, yeah, I wanted that bald look, too’ – but the quickness of the process was also a boon. ‘I didn’t think I was going to get the guitar ready for The Seahorses’ tour, says Palmer, ‘but because the finish is quick to do I just about managed it – it went out from my workshop straight to the venue for the first date!’
Palmer also built Squire’s Strat/Jag mutant guitars, one sunburst, one white, which John played at the ‘baggy Woodstock’™ Spike Island gig and waved around in The Stone Roses’ One LoveI video. Squire says the body shape was inspired by Fender 5-string basses, but the luthier reveals that the body is simply the horns of a Strat stuck to the lower body of a Jaguar. The neck is from the dismemebered Jaguar. This was years before Kurt Cobain’s JagStang,’ points out Palmer cheekily. ‘only we did it horizontally!’

27 November 1996 - The Buckley, Tivoli, Wales
Notes: Warm up show. The band's debut show.

07 December 1996 - Rico's, Greenock, Scotland
Notes: Warm up show.
26 April 1997 Saturday - Seahorses appear on the front cover of NME Magazine (New Musical Express): Now he’s seen it all once, can he get the same buzz as he did at the peak of the Roses? “I’ve already achieved it. The Greenock gig and the Viper Room gig were a better feeling than I’ve had for years of being in a band.”
From May 1997 - Melody Maker Magazine: John Squire speaks: “The second gig we ever played was at a place called Rico’s in Greenock, and everything changed on that night for me. At the start of the show, everyone was looking my way, chanting my name and that – it’s really staunch Roses country up there – and then, after about three songs, attention started to switch to centre stage, people were cheering for Chris’ solo bit and that, and I knew right then that it wasn’t going to be some embarrassing scenario with all the attention focused on me. You know, we could actually be a proper band.
From March 2002 - I Am Without Shoes (thestoneroses.net) Interview with Andy Watts: IAWS: How did people find you then? AW: Management tip-off at the last minute I think. The Greenock gig was my first realisation that it was going to be a big deal, we got such a raptuous reception. Obviously largely down to John's involvement.

M - 07 December 1996 - Seahorses interviewed in the NME (New Musical Express) Magazine
Notes: Tommy Udo interviews John Squire. Squire changed the band's name from The Seahorses to simply Seahorses. However, it was short-lived because it became the subject of a dispute when another band said they had already been performing as Seahorses for several years.

12 December 1996 - The Sugarhouse, Lancaster
Notes: Last of the 'secret' warm up shows.

1997
D.I.Y. John Squire Guitars
1957 Gibson Les Paul Goldtop
Gordon-Smith GS 12-string
Fender Blackguard Telecaster Blonde (Custom 1989, 1950s Original Fender Bridge Plate Hardware. Maple Neck, custom modded. The guitar was used on tour/recording and featured in the Blinded by the Sun promo video. It later went up for sale by London Vintage Guitars for £13,999.00)

Chris Helme's Guitars
1973 Fender Telecaster
From June 1997 - The Guitar Magazine: For Do It Yourself John splashed out on a ’57 Les Paul Goldtop (see left, from the inside sleeve of DIY), twangled a Gordon-Smith GS 12-string and borrowed Chris Helme’s ’73 Tele for many of the overdubs.

D.I.Y. Amps
American Kendrick valve amp
Fender Blues Deluxe
vintage 8-watt Gibson combo
Much of Do It Youself was recorded using American Kendrick valve amps, with occasional squawks from a Fender Blues Deluxe and a vintage 8-watt Gibson combo belonging to engineer Rob Jacobs. The kendricks, however, have not held up to the rigours of touring; although Squire mostly used Fender Twins in his Roses days, he now relies on good ‘ol Marshall stacks. A Leslie rotating speaker cab is another Squire ‘must have’ – ‘you can hear it on Standing On Your Head, Happiness Is Egged Shaped, Love Me Or Leave Me’ Love Is The Law… and I use it on stage too.’ Apart from that his only effects are a small EQ boost pedal and, for ‘anarchic’ sounds, a pitch shifter.

1997 - John Squire creates the art:
'Blinded By The Sun' (sunglasses in cement)
'Pink Apache: Sea.Cav.' (oil on canvas, 24“ x 18“).

1997 - John Squire designs the sleeve of Travis single 'U16 Girls'

16 January 1997 - Tony Visconti Recording Sessions, Los Angeles, CA, USA
Notes: Started 16 January 1997 with the flight to L.A.
The Seahorses recorded the debut album in Los Angeles spread over 30 days.
Engineer Rob Jacobs owned several amps used during the sessions.
26 April 1997 Saturday - Seahorses appear on the front cover of NME Magazine (New Musical Express): “Yeah, that was a bit scary when we were in LA. We’d hear all these gunshots, and then turn on the telly and there’d been a drive-by on the street next to our recording studio. But I did love LA. It’s a great place to be during the British winter. We spent two months there recording the album and it made me dead creative. I do a lot of painting, and the light and space gives me the right vibes for that. I wouldn’t bother writing songs on a rainy day in York like this. There’s lots of visual stimuli everywhere in LA, with all the hoardings and everything. That inspires me… I’d like to live somewhere like Southern Spain… Have you seen the last Star Trek film?”
From June 1997 - The Guitar Magazine: ‘Tony was one of (record label) Geffen’s suggestions,’ Squire explains. ‘I actually wanted to get Steve Albini (legendarily ‘troublesome’ US punkmeister, whose most mainstream work was the crunching mix of Nirvana’s In Utero) but I was told they couldn’t track him down.’...‘Tony was great in the studio. He’s a musician himself and plays all sort of instruments; the producers I’ve worked with in the past all came through engineering and didn’t have a musical background, whereas Tony could converse in that language. There were no situations where, when a song comes off the rails, the producer just says; ‘It’s not ‘right’; can you do it again? And again, and again… there were no abstract terms like that. Tony also had great organisational sense; he got us all in on time, basically. A lot of the mood aspect of the recording can be attributed to Tony.’...‘We recorded exactly what we’d been rehearsing for that long time’, says Squire. ‘The only problems we had were fitting in second and sometimes third guitar parts. We went through quite a few amp and guitar combinations....‘I started off wanting to use Les Pauls for the whole album, but once you’ve hot one strong guitar part down that can make things a but thick-sounding, so we put a lot of effort into mixing and matching. My main overdub guitar was a Telecaster that Chris had bought just prior to the sessions; he wasn’t playing it himself, so I grabbed it...But another factor, I’ve now leaned, is how you mix. This album was also sounding very thick, like Second Coming, for a while. We were working on a mid-‘70s Neve desk which apparently creates a warmer sound – we did some rough mixes on it, and they were extremely syrupy. It was only when we moved into a modern SSL desk that the sound opened up and became brighter. Maybe we hot the best of both worlds. I don’t like all-new gear – I do feel some modern CDs sound too pristine, too clinical – and I think we’ve still got a lot of warmth on this album...I’d like to have done more if it really live, actually. We did bass and drums live, with me doing a guide guitar – but that was basically because the same room was used for the drums and guitar ambience track. Stuart was playing in the control room with his can out in a booth, Andy was in the main room, I was stood in another side, doing the guide vocals.’
From Stuart Fletcher interview by Matt Mead published 11 February 2019: I had my 21st birthday on the flight to LA to record Do it Yourself and John gave me the shoe horn you got free on Virgin airways as my birthday present, not even wrapped! I’m sure he found that amusing in his own way. I think you have to know him to appreciate his wry sense of humour. I’m pretty sure I only got the job because I didn’t care who he was. When we auditioned drummers, he would instantly reject any that had Roses posters on the walls – not because of resentment of his former band but he had this belief that you were on a level and couldn’t work with people in awe of other musicians. You’re the star and you need to act like one. I learned that the hard way when I once asked Beck for his autograph. John tore me a new one! I did find that slightly hypocritical at the time as he clearly referenced Pollack in his art and Page in his music.
From June 1997 - The Guitar Magazine: ‘We’re working on an extension of Love Is The Law… it was a log longer at first, with a big improvised section, but Tony Visconti suggested it was edited down. We’ve been spending our time just getting The Seahorses set together, but I think it’s time now to go out on a wire. Long improvisations were something I used to do with The Stone Roses – as on Daybreak – and I’m starting to miss that now. We’ll probably end up with egg on our faces nine times of of ten, but it’s worth the risk – you can end up with some fantastic moments.
‘The bad bits? There are a few tuning discrepancies on The Boy in The Picture, probably
Because of those high frets I had put on by Les Paul. I’m pulling it a bit out of tune on that. I really like I Want You To Know (penned by Helme and Fletcher). When it breaks down without drums; Tony Visconti put on this Mellotron keyboard which sounds like something off an old Czechoslovakian horror film. The theremin on that’s good, too. We all tried to see who was the most naturally gifted theremin player and Tony won. They’re very strange, thermins; it’s another step removed from fretless, isn’t it? ; there’s no physical contact at all. You can get vibrato by wiggling your knuckes ! Excellent.’

January 1997 - Tony Visconti Recording Sessions, Los Angeles, CA, U.S.A.
Notes: Tony was well known for working with David Bowie & T-Rex/Marc Bolan. Squire’s intro chords to The Boy In The Picture – Bm to Bmadd9/Bb to D – cheekily copy Stairway To Heaven.
Squire pens eight tracks (Love Me And Leave Me with Liam Gallagher), while Chris penned three, including Blinded By The Sun.
From March 2002 - I Am Without Shoes (thestoneroses.net) Interview with Andy Watts: IAWS: What's it like working in the studio with John? Is he an easy man to work with? How much creative freedom did you have during the Do It Yourself sessions? AW: I had a large amount of freedom, actually. John's an easy-going bloke. Bear in mind that I was only in the group for about a month then we flew Stateside. I was pretty nervous to start with, going into a very big studio for the first time, ending up in LA not having worked for ages and all that. We had a laugh, got up to a lot of mischief. I was never dictated to. The only argument me and John had during the sessions was about the drum sound. John didn't push the issue though, and was very easy-going about the actual playing. Apart from my initial nervousness, it was all light-hearted and pretty jovial, we all were. You'd often find John in his bedroom rehearsing with his 8-track, we all put the hours in.
IAWS: What was the disagreement about the drum sound about? AW: I initially wanted a more aggressive upfront sound. I was very excited about the possibility of Steve Albini recording and producing the album before Visconti became involved... John was keener on a lighter, more T-Rex/70's Bowie vibe. This resulted in £5,000 worth of kit being heavily muted which, as you can appreciate, wasn't what I had in mind - I was hardly dictating John's guitar sounds...!
IAWS: Tony Visconti described you as "shitting yourself" during the sessions for the LP. Would that be a fair assessment...? AW: No, not particularly. I probably gave off that vibe, as Tony was aware that I'd never been in that environment before. Tony was good at relaxing and focusing people. I made a flippant comment that my arsehole was gripping me drum stool, maybe he took me too literally. Every beat you play is scrutinised; the drums are the first instrument to be laid down, so everybody's analysing and has something to say about them, it's quite a laborious process. Martin [Herbert, John Squire's guitar tech] and I often ended up putting bubble bath in the jaquzzi and walking around the studio naked! We partied as hard as we worked. The nightlife in LA is just fantastic.

20 February 1997 - Ian Brown's 34th birthday

John Squire Guitars
1959 Stewart Palmer Black Les Paul Custom
Gordon-Smith GS 12-string
1960s sunburst 335 12-string
1950s Gretsch practice amp
1960s Fender Champ
1948 Gibson combo with a detachable head (tweed cover with an orange stripe going down the front)
Notes: From June 1997 - The Guitar Magazine:Although he insists he’s no collector, Squire is increasingly acquiring pukka antique guitar finery; latest additions include a late ‘60s sunburst 335 12-string, a ‘50s Gretsch practice amp, a pristine ‘60s Fender Champ and ‘this strange 1948 Gibson combo with a detachable head. I don’t think it has a name, but it’s got a tweed cover with an orange stripe going down the front. That sounds wicked – it’s got a real ZZ Top sound.’

John Squire - Guitar
Chris Helme - Vocals & Guitar
Stuart Fletcher - Bass Guitar
Andy Watts - Drummer & Backing Vocals

Martin Herbert - Guitar Technician
Alan Smith - Roadie

20 February 1997 - LA Viper Room, Los Angeles, CA, USA
Around The Universe / Blinded By The Sun / I Want You To Know / The Boy In The Picture / Kill Pussycat Kill / Love Me And Leave Me / Movin' On / Love Is The Law /
Notes: This small show packed just over 200 people in. The band had finished the recording sessions with Tony and they were beginning the mixing of the record for release. The Beatles 'I'm Only Sleeping' played as the band came on stage. The date was Ian Brown's birthday, co-incidental?
The 08 March 1997 - NME featured a review of the show.
John wore a fully buttoned camouflage shirt, black jeans, soft shoes and his hair was apparently in full on fringe mode?
26 April 1997 Saturday - Seahorses appear on the front cover of NME Magazine (New Musical Express): Now he’s seen it all once, can he get the same buzz as he did at the peak of the Roses? “I’ve already achieved it. The Greenock gig and the Viper Room gig were a better feeling than I’ve had for years of being in a band.”
01 October 2009 Thursday 12:14 - The Guardian Newspaper article, by Guardian Music - Hannah Pool Interview: Ian Brown talks to Hannah Pool about the Stone Roses and his solo career. Have you forgiven John Squire for quitting the band by phone? It's all way in the past. He made a big mistake and he probably knows that. I don't think he needs me to rub his nose into the dirt. He probably thought, "I'll go and form this band, the Seahorses, and go around the world and everyone will love us and say what a genius I am." He didn't care what happened to me. I put my head down and got on with it and I'm still making music...
Bootleg: Tape - Newcastle Riverside 25/4/97 (DAT)+ Los Angeles Viper Room 3/97 (DAT) (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Priced: (£7))
Bootleg: Audience Recording - CD-R

March / April 1997 Good Friday - Ian & John meet
Notes: From February 1998 - Uncut magazine Ian Brown interview: Has there been any communication between you and John since he left the Roses? “No. I saw him on Good Friday last year. He was in his Range Rover and I saw him. To me, he looked like someone was on the floor with a gun at his head.”

10 April 1997 - Reni's 33rd birthday

? - Grog Shop
Notes: Unconfirmed date. Fan photographs are available online with the Grog Shop backdrop at the venue.

23 April 1997 Wednesday - Wulfrun Hall, Wolverhampton
Notes: Tour merchandise included Seahorses (grey) - Brand/Tag: Screen Stars - Fabric Blend: Poly/Cotton - Color: Grey - Pit-to-Pit: 21.50" - Label Size: L

25 April 1997 Friday - Riverside, 57-59 Melbourne Street, Newcastle, NE12JQ * Doors Open: 19:30 * Ticket Price: £8.50
From March 2002 - I Am Without Shoes (thestoneroses.net) Interview with Andy Watts: IAWS: What was your proudest achievement with The Seahorses? / What was your best moment with The Seahorses? AW: Stella, my eldest girl born, and her getting a mention on national radio. On a performance level, there were so many, it's difficult... Newcastle Mayfair and Glasgow Barrowlands were two mind-blowing gigs, I'll never forget them for as long as I live. At Newcastle I couldn't actually hear myself singing backing vocals, the audience were singing the songs so loudly! Oh, and then there was me walking through a restaurant naked in DC. IAWS: What?! AW: Oh, John bet me the price of a meal that I wouldn't do it. IAWS: But you did! How did your fellow diners react? AW: They all started applauding! It turned out afterwards that the meal was pretty cheap anyway, the equivalent of £20! Select Magazine then reported the fact that I'd strip naked in public for roughly £20 or the dollar equivalent...
Bootleg: Tape - Newcastle Riverside 25/4/97 (DAT)+ Los Angeles Viper Room 3/97 (DAT) (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Priced: (£7))

M - 26 April 1997 Saturday - Seahorses appear on the front cover of NME Magazine (New Musical Express)
Notes: Interview held in a pub in York. "Johnny Cigarettes" from the NME interviewed the band and wrote the article. The band were photographed in front of a church courtyard. Chris Helme’s ex-girlfriend mocks him as she passes by.
Headline read 'I would've started a group with Liam. But he was a bit busy...The Seahorses. Rose again! John Squire! lays down the law.' John reveals he and his daughter like Suede's LP (Coming Up), Radiohead's last album (The Bends), Beck's last and The Charlatans Tellin' Stories LP. See Media for the full article.

Chris Helme - Vocals, Acoustic Guitar
John Squire - Lead Guitar
Stuart Fletcher - Bass
Mal Scott - Drums
26 April 1997 Saturday - The Garage, Glasgow, Scotland
Notes: Mal Scott on drums for this show?
Bootleg: Squire's Law (Will Odell noted 'live in London 12/97 (FM) + first show from Glasgow 4/97') - (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Priced: (£12)) - CD-R
Bootleg: Tape - Glasgow Garage 26/4/97 (DAT master) + Manchester Apollo 27/5/97 (DAT) (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell) . Priced: (£7))
Bootleg: Audience Recording - Glasgow Garage 26/04/97 (Full gig) - CD-R
Bootleg: A Night To Remember (1997 Live Compilation) - Intro / 3 Wide (14 December 1997 Sunday - University, Exeter) / Round The Universe (27 June 1997 Friday - Glastonbury Festival) / Suicide Drive (27 June 1997 Friday - Glastonbury Festival) / Boy In The Picture (09 December 1997 Tuesday - Sheperds Bush Empire) / Love Me & Leave Me (09 December 1997 Tuesday - Sheperds Bush Empire) / Kill Pussycat Kill (06 December 1997 Saturday - Olympia, Dublin) / Moving On (26 April 1997 - The Garage, Glasgow) / Blinded By The Sun (27 June 1997 Friday - Glastonbury Festival) / Hello (06 December 1997 Saturday - Olympia, Dublin) / Happiness Is Eggshaped (06 December 1997 Saturday - Olympia, Dublin) / 1999 (09 December 1997 Tuesday - Sheperds Bush Empire) / Standing On Your Head (06 December 1997 Saturday - Olympia, Dublin) / Love Is The Law (09 December 1997 Tuesday - Sheperds Bush Empire) / I Want You To Know (09 December 1997 Tuesday - Sheperds Bush Empire) / You Can Talk To Me (09 December 1997 Tuesday - Sheperds Bush Empire)

27 April 1997 Sunday - L2, Liverpool

The Seahorses - 28 April 1997 - Love Is The Law U.K. Release Date
Written by John Squire.
Produced by Tony Visconti. Recorded and mixed by Rob Jacobs. Assistant Engineer: Jeff Thomas.
Artwork: 'Love Is The Law' (1996, acrylic on calico with clay and epoxy resin, 28x28inches. The piece used a bicycle wheel?) by John Squire. Photography by Matt Squire. John said: “It’s three dimensional, just about. The badge and the heart stand proud from the target. I was really pleased with the image.”
U.S. Promo CD - PRO-CD-1091 (Geffen Records, Pressed by WEA Mfg. Olyphant (W584).)
Love Is The Law (Single Edit) 3:42
Love Is The Law (Rock Edit) 5:14
Love Is The Law (LP Version) 7:44
U.S CD - GEFD-25134
U.S. Cassette - GEFC-25134
Notes: The single charted at number 3 in the U.K. and dropped to number 8 the week after. The title comes from a slogan of Aleister Crowley’s (Infamous 1920s occultist).
26 April 1997 Saturday - Seahorses appear on the front cover of NME Magazine (New Musical Express): Which brings us neatly round to ‘Love Is The Law’ once more. For those unversed in satanic literature, the title comes from a slogan of Aleister Crowley’s (Infamous 1920s occultist – Ed). What can it all mean? “I’m not a Satanist, if that’s what yer thinkin’. I’m aware of Aleister Crowley’s slogans and a bit about him, but I don’t agree with that much of it. But ‘Love Is The Law’ is a worthy sentiment, and I identify with the thrust of his philosophy that’s opposed to organised religion and Christianity. But to treat him as a great figure, or to replace organised religion with worshipping the devil is just as much nonsense.”
So you’re not a religious man, then? “Let’s just say I’m prepared to chance my vote at the last minute. I’m open to suggestion, if anyone’s out there.”
From John Squire Interview 18 May 1997 - Sunday Mail, Scottish Daily Record: But does John believe The Seahorses can make better records than the Stone Roses? "I think we already have," says John confidently.
From From 03 January 1998 - NME Magazine: Ian said: What do you think when you hear his band, The Seahorses? “They’re just poor. Anaemic. I was in a taxi in Liverpool when I heard the first single. I was having a mundane conversation with the driver and nothing made me wanna stop. I thought, ‘That kid’s got a sort of Manchester accent in a way, but I know he’s not Manchester’. And I knew the song ‘cos John had written that song in ’93. They just sound weak, boring. Dull. I mean, good luck to them kids. I feel a bit sorry for them, because of where he’s put them, y’know they’ve come from nowhere and they don’t know how to say not to him, and they don’t know how to say yes, either. The things that I’ve read, he just seems like a little Elvis and they’re on his payroll. It’s what he wanted. He’s got just what he wanted – he wanted to be the man, and now he’s the man.”

29 April 1997 Tuesday - The Leadmill, 6-7 Leadmill Rd., Sheffield, S1 * Doors Open: 19:30 * Ticket Price: £8.50
Notes: The band stayed 28 April at The Holiday Inn, Sheffield, Victoria Station Road, Sheffield, S4 7YE. John faxed his top ten songs to Select Magazine, for inclusion on the upcoming issue.

30 April 1997 Wednesday - Roadmender, 1 Ladys Lane, Northampton, NN13AH * Doors Open: 19:30 * Ticket Price: £8.50

May 1997 - John Squire's top ten songs is included in Select Magazine
Notes: See below for the original fax sent to the magainze.
John Squire's Top Ten Songs [Copied exactly, editorials in square brackets]
FAX FROM Holiday Inn, Sheffield, Victoria Station Road, Sheffield, S4 7YE TEL: (0114) 276 8822 FAX: (0114) 272 4519
FROM JOHN SQUIRE TO JON BENNETT. FAX NO. 0171 312 8296. DATE 28/4/97
MESSAGE TEN FAV SINGLES. 4 PAGES INC THIS ONE
JOHN SQUIRE: TEN FAVOURITE SINGLES
DEAR JON

GOD SAVE THE QUEEN SEX PISTOLS - ROTTEN AT HiS FRiGHTENiNG PEAK. JAMiE REIDS FINEST COVER. THE 'BLOCKED FROM NUMBER ONE CONSPiRACY. NO PiCTURE ON TOTP. I WAS HOOKED, GOT MY FiRST GUiTAR NEXT BiRTHDAY.

PiNBALL WIZARD ELTON JOHN - NOT THE BEST VERSiON I KNOW, BUT THiS WAS THE FiRST ROCK N ROLL 45 IN THE HOUSE - MY BROTHER BOUGHT IT UP 'TILL THEN WE'D TAPED EVERYTHiNG ON A HAND HELD MiKE NEXT TO THE T.V.

BLOCKBUSTER THE SWEET - AN ABiDiNG MEMORY FROM FiRST WATCHiNG TOTP, STRANGE BRiCKLAYiNG TRANSVESTiTES WHO SEEMED TO BE ON EVERY WEEK

JUMPiNG JACK FLASH - I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHEN I FiRST SAW THE PLAYFULLY SiNiSTER PROMO FOR THiS SONG, BUT I WENT OUT AND BOUGHT 'ROLLED GOLD' SOON AFTER, MY INTRODUCTiON TO THE STONES BACK CATALOGUE

'GOOD ViBRATiONS' - A COMPLETE MASTERPiECE INFATUATiON OBSESSiON AND [?] SPiNE TiNGLiNGLY (?) CONVEYED WiTH iNSPiRED USE OF CELLOW [sic] AND THERAMiN

'PURPLE HAZE' - ONE OF JiMiS HORNiEST TRACKS THAT BLASPHEMOUS OPENiNG GUiTAR PHRASE ALWAYS INTRiGUED ME. I FOUND OUT COURTESY OF CHARLES SUGAR MURRAYS BOOK THE MUSiCAL [crossed out] INTERVAL IN QUESTION HAD ONCE BEEN OUTLAWED BY THE CHURCH

"YOU TRIP ME UP" - I LOVED THE T.V. DiSTORTiON PiCTURE COVER FOR THiS ONE AND THE SONiC ACTiON PAiNTiNG APPROACH TO THE GUiTAR OVERDUBS AND THE ENDLESS PERMU [crossed out] ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE ENDLESS PERMUTATiON THE BROTHERS FOUND FOR THOSE THREE CHORDS - CHANGED THE WAY I THOUGHT ABOUT WRiTiNG SONGS

"HiPPY HiPPY SHAKE" - MY COUSiN MARK THREW OUT A LOAD OF OLD RECORDS AND THiS ONE LOOKED LiKE IT HAD MEEN KiCKED ALL OVER WYTHENSHAWE. I SCRUBBED IT THE [sic] KiTCHEN SiNK TO MAKE IT PLAYABLE AND PAiNTED A CARDBOARD SLEEVE FOR iT - SURPR [crossed out] SURPiSINGLY RAUCOUS FOR iTS TiME

PAPERBACK WRITER/ RAiN - FiRST BEATLES SiNGLE I BOUGHT, I THINK THEY REiSSUED THEM IN THE MID-SEVENTiES - GREEN COVER WiTH A GREAT BAND PHOTO ON THE BACK - KiLLER GUiTAR RiFF. STiLL IT SHOULD'VE BEEN FLiPPED THE OTHER WAY RAiN IS EDWARD LEAR SET TO MUSIC AND CASUAL TO THE POiNT OF NONCHALANCE.

CRANKED UP REALLY HiGH - SLAUGHTER [?] AND THE DOGS - CONJURS UP IMAGES OF FLAiLiNG FiSTS AND FEET ON SATURDAY NIGHT DANCEFLOORS IN MANCHESTER BLiSTERiNG TRACK WiTH THE ULTiMATE UNiNTELLiGABLE VOCAL

HOPE THiS iS WHAT YOU WANTED. APOLOGiES FOR THE GRAMMAR AND/OR ANY HOLES IN MY MEMORY [signed] John Squire

1997 - Top Of The Pops TV Show, BBC Studios, London
Love Is The Law
Notes:
From May 1997 - Melody Maker Magazine: Chris: “We just saw Jo Whiley down at ‘Top Of The Pops’; she’d said we sounded like The Levellers. I went up to her and said, ‘We don’t sound like the f***ing Levellers, alright?’”
Andy: “Oh, was that was it was? Because she came up to me later on and said, ‘Oh, I don’t think you sound anything like The Levellers, you know…’”
From Stuart Fletcher interview by Matt Mead published 11 February 2019: However, his first Top Of The Pops appearance, staring at the ceiling and a hint of sheep in his voice, that was nerves.
Bootleg: FM/TV/Mix - First Steps (1997, Gamberetto, Made In Japan? or Italy?, cat. no. SE007. Matrix: SE01 514157 IFPI L601) CD - Glastonbury Festival 1997 Suicide Drive / The Boy In The Picture / Blinded By The Sun / Love Is The Law - 29 May 1997 - BBC In Concert, Evening Session, BBC Radio 1, London Suicide Drive / Blinded By The Sun / Want You To Know / Love Me And Leave Me - BBC TV Session 1997 Love Is The Law - Non Album Tracks - Blinded By The Sun (Single Edited Version) / Kill Pussycat Kill / Moving On / Love Is The Law (Short Version) / Dreamer / Sale Of The Century
Bootleg: FM/TV/Mix - Radiowaves Live 1997 (1997 (incorrectly stamped '1991' on the CD-R), Skull Records, SIAE, Made In The UK, cat. no. SKULL01 S01. (What came first Radiowaves or First Steps? Similar tracklists, same sources, same era but this UK produce is only a CD-R, with silver face and printed text. Glossy paper printed cover and rear sleeve. Rather than the UK B-Side bonus tracks, Radio Waves includes tracks from the London show)) - CD-R - Glastonbury Festival 1997 - Suicide Drive / The Boy In The Picture / Blinded By The Sun / Love Is The Law - 29 May 1997 - BBC In Concert, Evening Session, BBC Radio 1, London - Suicide Drive / Blinded By The Sun / Want You To Know / Love Me And Leave Me - BBC TV Session 1997 - Love Is The Law
SHEPHERDS BUSH EMPIRE 08.12.97 (09 December 1997 Tuesday - Sheperds Bush Empire, London) Blinded By The Sun / I Want You To Know / The Boy In The Picture / Love Me & Leave Me / 1999 / Love Is The Law / You Can Talk To Me
Video Bootleg: Ian Brown TV Appearances (90 mins) + Seahorses TV Appearances (60 mins) () (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Priced: £17) - VHS Video
Video Bootleg: Pro-Shot - VHS / DVD - The Seahorses Collected (Made by Sander for fans) - 2 DVD-R
Video Bootleg: Seahorses TV Appearances/Promos/Glastonbury/London 1997 (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Running Time(Approx): 2.5hours. Priced: £17) - VHS (PAL, NTSC) Love Is The Law (Top Of The Pops) / Love Is The Law (Promo video) / Love Is The Law (Live on MTV) / Stone Roses - Begging You (Promo video) / Blinded By The Sun (Promo video)(p / Love Me And Leave Me (Live on TFI Friday) / Love Me And Leave Me (Top Of The Pops) / Love Me And Leave Me (Promo video) / You Can Talk To Me (Live on TFI Friday) / Love Is The Law (Live on Jools Holland) / Chris and John interview (Live on Jools Holland) / You Can Talk To Me (Live on Jools Holland) / You Can Talk To Me (Promo video) / Stone Roses - Love Spreads (Promo video) / You Can Talk To Me (Top Of The Pops) / Glastonbury Festival 1997 (selected songs) / London Forum 1997 - Video

02 May 1997 Friday - TFI Friday (Thank Four It's Friday), Channel 4 TV Studio, London
Love Is The Law
Notes: T.F.I. Friday Channel 4 TV Programme. The series ran over 4 years and included 205 episodes with long term cast Chris Evans, Will Macdonald and Andrew Carey. The show made a brief, and unwelcome, comeback in 2015. Foo Fighters and Hurricane #1 also performed on the show, only Stuart Fletcher spoke to the Seahorses on the night. Stuart would later join Hurricane #1.
From Stuart Fletcher interview by Matt Mead published 11 February 2019: What was it like being on the road with The Seahorses? Very up and down. I loved the touring and performing and still very much do, but it can be very draining mentally and physically. As the baby of the band, John used to take a lot of his frustrations out on me. I think in one way he didn’t want me to go off the rails like Andy Watts did so would constantly have a go at me about putting on weight or showboating on stage. I didn’t get it at the time as I just thought he was a crank but looking back I think he was trying to keep it professional. As a result I ended up spending most of time with the support acts like Mansun and The Doves etc. In one way I met a lot of cool people. In a weird twist of fate, when I met Alex from Hurricane#1 for the first time, he said I’d met him previously on TFI Friday and he remembered me because I was the only one from the band who came and spoke to them...Are things a lot different working in Hurricane#1 to the workings of The Seahorses? Absolutely. For starters I’m 20 years more experienced than before. One thing I really owe John Squire for is that he taught me what it takes to perform at that level and how to act as a professional. Secondly, the lads actually respect me and so far have been treating me like royalty. I find this really bizarre as I don’t even get that from my local bands. I think we’ll have a lot of fun on the Embrace tour and they really are a cracking bunch. Our initial rehearsals have gone well and I think I’ve brought some new enthusiasm with me (and massive fat aggressive bass) which I think Alex has not had for a while. The new guitarist Jon is a really great player and the drummer Chris makes me laugh a lot as well as having that great Ringo feel. I was also blown away by how great Alex’s voice is sounding at the moment after all he’s been through. He can certainly hammer it out over a full kit and backline. I think anyone coming to the shows will get a real shock as to how in your face it is. Wet indie music it definitely is not! The manager Stu – no relation – has been working really hard on securing a label for the new release this year and he seems to just be out there all the time loving music and promoting the band. He recently got us an endorsement with a swanky clothing company in London who have been ace with us. Check out his website here. He’s booked a mini tour for April and May and a Japanese tour in September and just keeps getting more and more offers daily.
Bootleg: Ian Brown TV Appearances (90 mins) + Seahorses TV Appearances (60 mins) () (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Priced: £17) - VHS Video
Video Bootleg: Pro-Shot - VHS / DVD - The Seahorses Collected (Made by Sander for fans) - 2 DVD-R

1997 - MTV
Love Is The Law
Notes:
Video Bootleg: Seahorses TV Appearances/Promos/Glastonbury/London 1997 (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Running Time(Approx): 2.5hours. Priced: £17) - VHS (PAL, NTSC) Love Is The Law (Top Of The Pops) / Love Is The Law (Promo video) / Love Is The Law (Live on MTV) / Stone Roses - Begging You (Promo video) / Blinded By The Sun (Promo video)(p / Love Me And Leave Me (Live on TFI Friday) / Love Me And Leave Me (Top Of The Pops) / Love Me And Leave Me (Promo video) / You Can Talk To Me (Live on TFI Friday) / Love Is The Law (Live on Jools Holland) / Chris and John interview (Live on Jools Holland) / You Can Talk To Me (Live on Jools Holland) / You Can Talk To Me (Promo video) / Stone Roses - Love Spreads (Promo video) / You Can Talk To Me (Top Of The Pops) / Glastonbury Festival 1997 (selected songs) / London Forum 1997 - Video
Video Bootleg: Pro-Shot - VHS / DVD - The Seahorses Collected (Made by Sander for fans) - 2 DVD-R

03 May 1997 Saturday - The Castle, Dublin, Ireland
Bootleg: Tape - Dublin Castle 3/5/97 (WM - poor) (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Priced: (£7))

04 May 1997 Sunday - Limelight, Belfast, Northern Ireland

M - May 1997 - Melody Maker Magazine Initerview with John
Notes: See Media for the article. Interview by Taylor Parkes 'DAYS OF EQUINE AND ROSES'.
From March 2002 - I Am Without Shoes (thestoneroses.net) Interview with Andy Watts: IAWS: Were the band really pissed off by that Taylor Parkes interview in Melody Maker that slagged you all off? AW: Well, speaking personally, I thought it was fairly shallow that the Melody Maker cover had the headline "Have The Seahorses Blown It?" We'd just had a Top 3 single, so that was hardly the case. I always thought the Melody Maker was a poor mag anyway - it went under, didn't it? Nah, it didn't bother me - any press is good press, as they say. The guy [Parkes] came to the interview with an agenda - it didn't matter what we said, he was gonna slag us off anyway. He had a preconception that the rest of us were John's gimps, and whatever we said wasn't gonna change that. The headline was childish though, and the content of the mag was always lacking in general. Junior School Journalism. Kids grow up eventually...

May 1997 - Rehearsals, London
From March 2002 - I Am Without Shoes (thestoneroses.net) Interview with Andy Watts: We were in a rehearsal studio in London in Spring 1997, and Primal Scream were next door. Mani and him were getting on like a house on fire, they were hugging like brothers.

M - 18 May 1997 - Sunday Mail, Scottish Daily Record publish an interview with John
Notes: See Media for the article.

21 May 1997 - Foster's, Toronto, Canada

The Seahorses - 26 May 1997 Monday - Do It For Yourself U.K. Release Date
Produced by Tony Visconti.
John Squire - Guitar
Chris Helme - Vocals and Guitar
Stuart Fletcher - Bass Guitar
Andy Watts - Drums and Backing Vocals
Lili Hayden - Violin
I Want You To Know
Blinded By The Sun
Suicide Drive
Boy In The Picture
Love Is The Law
Happiness Is Egg-Shaped
Love Me And Leave Me
Round The Universe
1999
Standing On Your Head
Hello
Notes: 'Do It Yourself' went straight to number 1 in the U.K. album charts and was certified Gold for sales.
Liam Gallagher (of Oasis) co-wrote Love Me And Leave Me with John Squire (see 11 May 1996), released as a single 29 September 1997.
Chirs Helme was a songwriter too, John admitted early on that despite liking a couple of Helme's songs (including "Blinded by the Sun", which he re-arranged for the album) – "Yeah, he can write the odd tune but I don't really like them and it might be a problem later on if he wants to record them with the band"
From Stuart Fletcher interview by Matt Mead published 11 February 2019: Did John have all of the songs ready for the debut album? Not at all. I think he had four or five initial ideas when he first approached me. Chris wrote as many as John during those early rehearsals and John’s were constantly been updated and reworked. I would write some sections to finish songs off such as the chords in the solo of Around the Universe or the outro for Love Is The Law or the string parts and bass melody in Standing On Your Head and he would also lyric and key test in his room with Chris, basically geting Chris to sing the lines, and he would check if he liked them or needed to change them. In other words, they were gradually written over the course of two or three months with contributions from all of us...Did you have any songs that you offered to the band at the time? I wrote the first track on the album I Want You To Know but it wasn’t really my strong point at the time. I’m very good at arranging or finishing other people’s songs or providing riffs which people write songs around. Probably why a lot of bass players become decent producers. There was a song I wrote with a tapping bass line which John really wanted to use but we never got the chance to do anything with it. It was eventually called Crime and Chris Helme ended up finishing it off when we formed The Yards in 2002...Do you think your bass playing had improved since The Seahorses? It’s improved a great deal. Do It Yourself sometimes makes me cringe in places as to how I would approach that album now. My fingers move much faster and 20 years of playing a massive spectrum of different music with some great players, has really moved me along. I listen back to some recordings now and can’t believe it’s me playing. I still have a long way to go when I see some of those prog guys doing amazing things with 6 string basses, not that it’s my thing but I wish I’d spent some time learning scales to make me a better player. I hear melody in my head and recreate it with my fingers and ears. It comes down to feel in the end though and knowing when to go for it and when not to.
From 03 January 1998 - NME Magazine: Ian said: DO you think any of The Seahorses’ songs are about you? “I don’t know, I’ve not heard the LP.” He sighs.
From Ian Brown Q Magazine Interview by Howard Johnson: HJ: Happiness is... IB: Eggshaped. Definitley egg-shaped!

27 May 1997 - Apollo, Manchester
Bootleg: Tape - Glasgow Garage 26/4/97 (DAT master) + Manchester Apollo 27/5/97 (DAT) (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell) . Priced: (£7))

29 May 1997 - BBC In Concert / Evening Session, BBC Radio 1, Maida Vale Studios, London
Suicide Drive / Blinded By The Sun / Want You To Know / Love Me And Leave Me
Bootleg: FM/TV/Mix - First Steps (1997, Gamberetto, Made In Japan? or Italy?, cat. no. SE007. Matrix: SE01 514157 IFPI L601) CD - Glastonbury Festival 1997 Suicide Drive / The Boy In The Picture / Blinded By The Sun / Love Is The Law - 29 May 1997 - BBC In Concert, Evening Session, BBC Radio 1, London Suicide Drive / Blinded By The Sun / Want You To Know / Love Me And Leave Me - BBC TV Session 1997 Love Is The Law - Non Album Tracks - Blinded By The Sun (Single Edited Version) / Kill Pussycat Kill / Moving On / Love Is The Law (Short Version) / Dreamer / Sale Of The Century
Bootleg: FM/TV/Mix - Radiowaves Live 1997 (1997 (incorrectly stamped '1991' on the CD-R), Skull Records, SIAE, Made In The UK, cat. no. SKULL01 S01. (What came first Radiowaves or First Steps? Similar tracklists, same sources, same era but this UK produce is only a CD-R, with silver face and printed text. Glossy paper printed cover and rear sleeve. Rather than the UK B-Side bonus tracks, Radio Waves includes tracks from the London show)) - CD-R - Glastonbury Festival 1997 - Suicide Drive / The Boy In The Picture / Blinded By The Sun / Love Is The Law - 29 May 1997 - BBC In Concert, Evening Session, BBC Radio 1, London - Suicide Drive / Blinded By The Sun / Want You To Know / Love Me And Leave Me - BBC TV Session 1997 - Love Is The Law
SHEPHERDS BUSH EMPIRE 08.12.97 (09 December 1997 Tuesday - Sheperds Bush Empire, London) Blinded By The Sun / I Want You To Know / The Boy In The Picture / Love Me & Leave Me / 1999 / Love Is The Law / You Can Talk To Me

05 June 1997 Thursday 23:02 The Independent, Barbara Ellen Interview
Notes: See Media for the article.

07 June 1997 Saturday - Sala Caracol, Madrid, Spain
Notes:
From Stuart Fletcher interview by Matt Mead published 11 February 2019: We had a lot of problems with monitor engineers in an almost Spinal Tap way. One we lost to food poisoning in Spain. Another got so pissed with us in Japan we couldn’t wake him up for the flight so had to leave him. I think we had 5 or 6 in less than 2 months. Following this, Chris had some moulded ear plugs made that filtered certain frequencies out.

09 June 1997 Monday - Rock City, Nottingham * Ticket Price: £10.00 *
Notes: Tickets Were Made Available From April 1997.

10 June 1997 Tuesday - Town & Country, Leeds * Ticket Price: £10.00 *
Notes: Tickets Were Made Available From April 1997.

11 June 1997 Wednesday - Barrowlands, Glasgow * Ticket Price: £10.00 *
Notes: Tickets Were Made Available From April 1997.
From March 2002 - I Am Without Shoes (thestoneroses.net) Interview with Andy Watts: IAWS: What was your proudest achievement with The Seahorses? / What was your best moment with The Seahorses? AW: Stella, my eldest girl born, and her getting a mention on national radio. On a performance level, there were so many, it's difficult... Newcastle Mayfair and Glasgow Barrowlands were two mind-blowing gigs, I'll never forget them for as long as I live. At Newcastle I couldn't actually hear myself singing backing vocals, the audience were singing the songs so loudly! Oh, and then there was me walking through a restaurant naked in DC.
Bootleg: Tape - Glasgow Barrowlands 11/6/97 (DAT) + Glastonbury 27/6/97 (FM highlights) (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Priced: (£7))

13 June 1997 Friday - University, Cardiff * Ticket Price: £10.00 *
Notes: Tickets Were Made Available From April 1997.

14 June 1997 Saturday - Guildhall, Southampton * Ticket Price: £10.00 *
Notes: Tickets Were Made Available From April 1997.

15 June 1997 Sunday - UEA (University of East Anglia), Norwich * Ticket Price: £10.00 *
Notes: Tickets Were Made Available From April 1997.

17 June 1997 Tuesday - Prince Van Oran, Utrecht, The Netherlands
Notes: Unconfirmed date

* Cancelled * 18 June 1997 Wednesday - Vorst Nat'l, Brussels, Belgium * Supporting: Neil Young

19 June 1997 Thursday - Essex University

John Squire
Chris Helme
Stuart Fletcher
Andy Watts
20 June 1997 Friday - The Forum, Kentish Town, London, NW5 * Doors Open: 19:00 * Ticket Price: £11 * Support Act(s):
Blinded By The Sun / Suicide Drive / Round The Universe / The Boy In The Picture / 1999 / Moving On / Standing on Your Head / Happiness Is Eggshaped / Love Me And Leave Me / Love Is The Law / Hello / I Want You To Know
Notes: Tickets Were Made Available From April 1997.
See Media for 27 June 1997 Friday 00:02 The Independent, Emma Forrest Review.
Bootleg: Tape - London Forum 20/6/97 (DAT) + "Key 103" (US radio interview + live) 97 (FM) (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Priced: (£7))
Video Bootleg: Amateur Audience Shot - VHS / DVD - The Seahorses Collected (Made by Sander for fans) - 2 DVD-R
Video Bootleg: Seahorses TV appearances compilation + Glastonbury 97 + London Forum 97 aka Seahorses TV Appearances/Promos/Glastonbury/London 1997 (aka DVD Collection) (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Priced: £17) - VHS Video / 2 DVD-R
Video Bootleg: Seahorses TV Appearances/Promos/Glastonbury/London 1997 (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Running Time(Approx): 2.5hours. Priced: £17) - VHS (PAL, NTSC) Love Is The Law (Top Of The Pops) / Love Is The Law (Promo video) / Love Is The Law (Live on MTV) / Stone Roses - Begging You (Promo video) / Blinded By The Sun (Promo video)(p / Love Me And Leave Me (Live on TFI Friday) / Love Me And Leave Me (Top Of The Pops) / Love Me And Leave Me (Promo video) / You Can Talk To Me (Live on TFI Friday) / Love Is The Law (Live on Jools Holland) / Chris and John interview (Live on Jools Holland) / You Can Talk To Me (Live on Jools Holland) / You Can Talk To Me (Promo video) / Stone Roses - Love Spreads (Promo video) / You Can Talk To Me (Top Of The Pops) / Glastonbury Festival 1997 (selected songs) / London Forum 1997 - Video

21 June 1997 Saturday - Academy, Manchester * Ticket Price: £10.00 *
Notes: Tickets Were Made Available From April 1997. Mani was apparently spotted at the show in the crowd and backstage too.

23 June 1997 Monday - Unknown, Wiesen, Austria

26 June 1997 Thursday - Roskilde Festival, Indie Stage, Denmark

1997 - Andy Watts is sacked
Notes: Andy, Chris and John's relationship had soured through relentless touring. Andy was missing his family, new born Stella was only a couple of weeks old as the band toured Japan. Steve Adge conducts a band meeting in the accountant's office. Andy is fired but goes on to form, his own band, Mozer.
From March 2002 - I Am Without Shoes (thestoneroses.net) Interview with Andy Watts: IAWS: You've kind of given the reasons already, but why did you leave the band, and was there any specific instance that made up your mind?
AW: Oh, I got thrown out! I never left! All that 'left to spend more time with his family' was absolute Hall-Or-Nothing-bollocks - didn't even get to write me own epitaph. To cut a long story short, we went on a long tour of Japan and the US when my Stella was two weeks old, which kind of zaps your motivation to leave... And I wasn't getting on that well with John. If I'm honest, I was probably the main protagonist, I was doing too much coke (don't touch it now though), and it was effecting my playing. Chris said in an interview that I was 'playing like an arse', which upset me at the time, but looking at it now he was probably right. Also, I think I didn't fit into the the band 'ethos'. I suppose on many occasions my gregarious nature got the better of me, I was maybe a little too, er... 'rock'n'roll'. I liked to party and engaged in many late nights with crew and band alike, which I think perhaps John found inappropriate at times, for whatever reason, only he knows. Also, I've never been a subscriber to 'rock school aloofness', and my partying may have got in the way of my playing... you live and learn. Basically, at the end of the tour we had a meeting in our accountant's office, and Steve Adge told me - the others didn't have the bottle. Chris and Stu just went along with what John said, which was what they did at that time. I was kind of to blame for my own downfall. The quote 'having a good time all of the time' springs to mind. After that, I went home, licked my wounds for a few months, then got on with getting Mozer off the ground - something I was in the process of doing before The Seahorses came along.

Chris Helme - Vocals, Acoustic Guitar
John Squire - Lead Guitar
Stuart Fletcher - Bass
Andy Watts - Drums & Backing Vocal
Mal Scott - Drums

27 June 1997 Friday - Glastonbury Festival, NME (Other) Stage, Pilton, Glastonbury, Somerset
Suicide Drive / The Boy In The Picture / Blinded By The Sun / Love Is The Law
Notes: Andy Watts on drums and backing vocals for this show?
From Stuart Fletcher interview by Matt Mead published 11 February 2019: How did Glastonbury go down? The footage shows singer Chris Helmes nerves seemingly getting the better of him being unable to sing Love Is The Law. That was nothing to do with nerves. That was straight onto a cold, muddy wet stage with no soundcheck and John’s guitar so phenomenally loud on stage that Chris had no chance of pitching to anything. We didn’t have in ear monitors or backing tracks which are so often used now, so it was pot luck what you got in your wedge. John very rarely plays any root chords as he’s constantly riffing and that just sounds like mush on those stages in the wind at those levels. I think most vocalists in those circumstances would sympathise with Chris on that one.
Bootleg: FM/TV/Mix - First Steps (1997, Gamberetto, Made In Japan? or Italy?, cat. no. SE007. Matrix: SE01 514157 IFPI L601) CD - Glastonbury Festival 1997 - Suicide Drive / The Boy In The Picture / Blinded By The Sun / Love Is The Law - 29 May 1997 - BBC In Concert, Evening Session, BBC Radio 1, London - Suicide Drive / Blinded By The Sun / Want You To Know / Love Me And Leave Me - BBC TV Session 1997 Love Is The Law - Non Album Tracks - Blinded By The Sun (Single Edited Version) / Kill Pussycat Kill / Moving On / Love Is The Law (Short Version) / Dreamer / Sale Of The Century
Bootleg: FM/TV/Mix - Radiowaves Live 1997 (1997 (incorrectly stamped '1991' on the CD-R), Skull Records, SIAE, Made In The UK, cat. no. SKULL01 S01. (What came first Radiowaves or First Steps? Similar tracklists, same sources, same era but this UK produce is only a CD-R, with silver face and printed text. Glossy paper printed cover and rear sleeve. Rather than the UK B-Side bonus tracks, Radio Waves includes tracks from the London show)) - CD-R - Glastonbury Festival 1997 - Suicide Drive / The Boy In The Picture / Blinded By The Sun / Love Is The Law - 29 May 1997 - BBC In Concert, Evening Session, BBC Radio 1, London - Suicide Drive / Blinded By The Sun / Want You To Know / Love Me And Leave Me - BBC TV Session 1997 - Love Is The Law
SHEPHERDS BUSH EMPIRE 08.12.97 (09 December 1997 Tuesday - Sheperds Bush Empire, London) Blinded By The Sun / I Want You To Know / The Boy In The Picture / Love Me & Leave Me / 1999 / Love Is The Law / You Can Talk To Me
Bootleg: Tape - Glasgow Barrowlands 11/6/97 (DAT) + Glastonbury 27/6/97 (FM highlights) (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Priced: (£7))
Bootleg: Tape - Glastonbury Festival 27/6/97 (DAT master) + T in the Park 13/7/97 (DAT master) (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Priced: (£7))
Bootleg: A Night To Remember (1997 Live Compilation) - Intro / 3 Wide (14 December 1997 Sunday - University, Exeter) / Round The Universe (27 June 1997 Friday - Glastonbury Festival) / Suicide Drive (27 June 1997 Friday - Glastonbury Festival) / Boy In The Picture (09 December 1997 Tuesday - Sheperds Bush Empire) / Love Me & Leave Me (09 December 1997 Tuesday - Sheperds Bush Empire) / Kill Pussycat Kill (06 December 1997 Saturday - Olympia, Dublin) / Moving On (26 April 1997 - The Garage, Glasgow) / Blinded By The Sun (27 June 1997 Friday - Glastonbury Festival) / Hello (06 December 1997 Saturday - Olympia, Dublin) / Happiness Is Eggshaped (06 December 1997 Saturday - Olympia, Dublin) / 1999 (09 December 1997 Tuesday - Sheperds Bush Empire) / Standing On Your Head (06 December 1997 Saturday - Olympia, Dublin) / Love Is The Law (09 December 1997 Tuesday - Sheperds Bush Empire) / I Want You To Know (09 December 1997 Tuesday - Sheperds Bush Empire) / You Can Talk To Me (09 December 1997 Tuesday - Sheperds Bush Empire)
Video Bootleg: VHS / DVD - The Seahorses Collected (Made by Sander for fans) - 2 DVD-R
Video Bootleg: Seahorses TV Appearances/Promos/Glastonbury/London 1997 (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Running Time(Approx): 2.5hours. Priced: £17) - VHS (PAL, NTSC) Love Is The Law (Top Of The Pops) / Love Is The Law (Promo video) / Love Is The Law (Live on MTV) / Stone Roses - Begging You (Promo video) / Blinded By The Sun (Promo video)(p / Love Me And Leave Me (Live on TFI Friday) / Love Me And Leave Me (Top Of The Pops) / Love Me And Leave Me (Promo video) / You Can Talk To Me (Live on TFI Friday) / Love Is The Law (Live on Jools Holland) / Chris and John interview (Live on Jools Holland) / You Can Talk To Me (Live on Jools Holland) / You Can Talk To Me (Promo video) / Stone Roses - Love Spreads (Promo video) / You Can Talk To Me (Top Of The Pops) / Glastonbury Festival 1997 (selected songs) / London Forum 1997 - Video

28 June 1997 Saturday - Roskilde Festival, Indie Stage, Denmark
29 June 1997 Sunday - Roskilde Festival, Indie Stage, Denmark

M - June 1997 - Seahorses feature in The Guitar Magazine
Notes: John Squire interview conducted 26 June 1997 (the day before Glastonbury Festival) at a Cardiff Hotel bar, see Media for the article.

M - July 1997 - The Seahorses feature on the cover of Vox Magazine 'DIY Hard! The Seahorses. John Squire comes again!'

11 July 1997 Friday - Dour Festival, Indie Stage, Belgium

13 July 1997 Monday - T In The Park, NME Stage, Balado, Scotland
Notes: The Seahorses headlined the NME stage.
Bootleg: T In The Park (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Priced: £12) - CD-R
Bootleg: Tape - Glastonbury Festival 27/6/97 (DAT master) + T in the Park 13/7/97 (DAT master) (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Priced: (£7))

The Seahorses - 14 July 1997 - Blinded By The Sun Me U.K. Release Date
Notes: Charted at Number 7 in the UK.
From March 2002 - I Am Without Shoes (thestoneroses.net) Interview with Andy Watts: IAWS: So it's not true that Blinded By The Sun was really written by John Squire, not Chris Helme? AW: (Laughs). I can tell you now that in my attic I've got rough recordings made by Chris before The Seahorses even existed.
IAWS: Some Roses fans have speculated that it was actually written by John Squire to Ian Brown. John did seem to maintain a silence about the whole thing, when he was being attacked left right and centre by the remaining Roses. AW: Well I've also retained photocopies of the original lyric sheets penned by Chris. Definitely a Chris Helme song, urban myth methinks. As regards the war of words, they're playground tactics really, aren't they? I can understand Ian was hurt, anybody would be, they were friends from childhood, weren't they? But I've never met Ian, and can't really comment about the situation. John can be detached when he wants to be.
IAWS: How did they get you guys to float around like that in the Blinded By The Sun video? AW: That whole day was very uncomfortable. We were strapped very tightly into harnesses, hoisted up and filmed against a blue background - the rest was all post production. Very painful. The worst bit about that was when I was chatting to some make-up girls and they started giggling. It was then I realised that one of my bollocks had popped out! IAWS: In true Alan Partridge style...AW: Indeed - 'The boys were out of their barracks'!

27 July 1997 Sunday - Fuji Rock Festival, Main Stage, Japan
Notes: From Stuart Fletcher interview by Matt Mead published 11 February 2019: We had a lot of problems with monitor engineers in an almost Spinal Tap way. One we lost to food poisoning in Spain. Another got so pissed with us in Japan we couldn’t wake him up for the flight so had to leave him. I think we had 5 or 6 in less than 2 months. Following this, Chris had some moulded ear plugs made that filtered certain frequencies out.

31 July 1997 Thursday - Met Café, Providence, RI, USA

1997 ? - Key 103 Radio, USA
Love Me And Leave Me (Acoustic)
Bootleg: Tape - London Forum 20/6/97 (DAT) + "Key 103" (US radio interview + live) 97 (FM) (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Priced: (£7))

1997 - Mark Heaney joins on drums

01 August 1997 Friday - Paradise Rock Club, Boston, MA, USA

02 August 1997 Saturday - Theatre Of Living Arts, Philidelphia, PA, USA

04 August 1997 Monday - 9:30 Club, Washington DC, USA

05 August 1997 Tuesday - Irving Plaza, New York City, NY, USA

07 August 1997 Thursday - Foufounes, Montreal, Canada

08 August 1997 Friday - Opera House, Toronto, Canada

09 August 1997 Saturday - Cleveland Heights, Cleveland, OH, USA

10 August 1997 Sunday - St. Andrews Hall, Detroit, MI, USA

12 August 1997 Tuesday - Metro, 3730 N Clark, Chicago, IL, USA * Doors Open: 19:00 * Ticket Price: $10

13 August 1997 Wednesday - The Rave, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA

14 August 1997 Thursday - Fine Line Music Cafe, Minneapolis, MN, USA

16 August 1997 Saturday - The Galaxy, St Louis, MO, USA

17 August 1997 Sunday - Lawrence, KS, USA

19 August 1997 Tuesday - Ogden Theatre, Denver, Colorado, USA

20 August 1997 Wednesday - DV8, Utah, Salt Lake City, Utah, USA

22 August 1997 Friday - La Luna, Portland, Oregon, USA
Bootleg: Tape - Portland la Luna 22/8/97(DAT) (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Priced: (£7))

23 August 1997 Saturday - Rage, Vancouver, Canada

24 August 1997 Sunday - The Showbox, Seattle, Washington, USA

26 August 1997 Tuesday - Bimbo's, San Franciso, CA, USA

27 August 1997 Wednesday - The Palace, Hollywood, CA, USA

28 August 1997 Thursday - The Viper Rooms, Los Angeles, California, USA

29 August 1997 Friday - Cane's, San Diego, USA

KWVA Eugene, Radio, USA
Bootleg: THE SEAHORSES & IAN BROWN - T IN THE PARK 1998 (G-Productions Compact Discs. Originally priced at £13 plus £1 in the U.K.) - 2 CDR

1997 ? - Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh
Bootleg: Tape - Newcastle Mayfair 1/9/97 (DAT) + Edinburgh Murrayfield Stadium 8/97 (DAT) (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Priced: (£7))

01 September 1997 Monday - The Mayfair, Newgate Street, Newcastle, NE15XA * Doors Open: 19:00 * Ticket Price: £10.50
Intro / Round The Universe / Suicide Drive / The Boy In The Picture / Blinded By The Sun / Moving On / Kill Pussycat Kill / Hello / Standing On Your Head / Happiness Is Eggshaped / Love Me And Leave Me / Love Is The Law / I Want You To Know
Notes:
Bootleg: Full Story + Pix (Full Story and Pix) - Audience Recording (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). "*Guaranteed lowest generation copy from master CD that you'll find*. There is no noise what-so-ever, and there is a good sound balance and instrument separation. Only thing that stops it being perfect is that the guitar sounds a bit weak." CD Originally Priced: £11.00, Running Time (Approx): 74mins , Cassette originally priced: £3) Intro / Round The Universe / Suicide Drive / The Boy In The Picture /Blinded By The Sun / Moving On / Kill Pussycat Kill / Hello / Standing On Your Head / Happiness Is Eggshaped / Love Me And Leave Me / Love Is The Law / I Want You To Know / Groove Harder (Love Spreads B-side) / High Time (25 August 1996 Sunday - Reading 96) / Ice Cold Cube (25 August 1996 Sunday - Reading 96) / Elephant Stone (1986 Chorlton Demo) / Sun Still Shines (1986 Chorlton Demo) / Love Is The Law (Joke version) - CD-R / Tape
Bootleg: Tape - Newcastle Mayfair 1/9/97 (DAT) + Edinburgh Murrayfield Stadium 8/97 (DAT) (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Priced: (£7))
Bootleg: Love Is... (Made In Japan) CD-R

26 September 1997 Friday - TFI Friday (Thank Four It's Friday), Channel 4 TV Studio, London
Love Me And Leave Me
Notes: T.F.I. Friday, Series 3, Channel 4 TV Programme. Louise, Terry Hall (The Specials, Fun Boy Three, Colourfield etc.) and Sleeper also performed on the show.
The series ran over 4 years and included 205 episodes with long term cast Chris Evans, Will Macdonald and Andrew Carey. The show made a brief, and unwelcome, comeback in 2015.
Bootleg: Ian Brown TV Appearances (90 mins) + Seahorses TV Appearances (60 mins) () (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Priced: £17) - VHS Video
Video Bootleg: Pro-Shot - VHS / DVD - The Seahorses Collected (Made by Sander for fans) - 2 DVD-R
Video Bootleg: Seahorses TV Appearances/Promos/Glastonbury/London 1997 (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Running Time(Approx): 2.5hours. Priced: £17) - VHS (PAL, NTSC) Love Is The Law (Top Of The Pops) / Love Is The Law (Promo video) / Love Is The Law (Live on MTV) / Stone Roses - Begging You (Promo video) / Blinded By The Sun (Promo video)(p / Love Me And Leave Me (Live on TFI Friday) / Love Me And Leave Me (Top Of The Pops) / Love Me And Leave Me (Promo video) / You Can Talk To Me (Live on TFI Friday) / Love Is The Law (Live on Jools Holland) / Chris and John interview (Live on Jools Holland) / You Can Talk To Me (Live on Jools Holland) / You Can Talk To Me (Promo video) / Stone Roses - Love Spreads (Promo video) / You Can Talk To Me (Top Of The Pops) / Glastonbury Festival 1997 (selected songs) / London Forum 1997 - Video

The Seahorses - 29 September 1997 - Love Me And Leave Me U.K Release Date
Notes: Charted at Number 16 in the UK.

October 1997 - You Can Talk To Me Sessions, London
Notes: Youth produced the single.

10 October 1997 - Top Of The Pops TV Show, BBC Studios, London
Love Me And Leave Me
Bootleg: Ian Brown TV Appearances (90 mins) + Seahorses TV Appearances (60 mins) () (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Priced: £17) - VHS Video
Video Bootleg: Pro-Shot - VHS / DVD - The Seahorses Collected (Made by Sander for fans) - 2 DVD-R
Video Bootleg: Seahorses TV Appearances/Promos/Glastonbury/London 1997 (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Running Time(Approx): 2.5hours. Priced: £17) - VHS (PAL, NTSC) Love Is The Law (Top Of The Pops) / Love Is The Law (Promo video) / Love Is The Law (Live on MTV) / Stone Roses - Begging You (Promo video) / Blinded By The Sun (Promo video)(p / Love Me And Leave Me (Live on TFI Friday) / Love Me And Leave Me (Top Of The Pops) / Love Me And Leave Me (Promo video) / You Can Talk To Me (Live on TFI Friday) / Love Is The Law (Live on Jools Holland) / Chris and John interview (Live on Jools Holland) / You Can Talk To Me (Live on Jools Holland) / You Can Talk To Me (Promo video) / Stone Roses - Love Spreads (Promo video) / You Can Talk To Me (Top Of The Pops) / Glastonbury Festival 1997 (selected songs) / London Forum 1997 - Video

11 October 1997 - Festhalle, Bern, Switzerland * Supporting: The Prodigy

12 October 1997 - Hippodrome de Vincennes, Paris, France * Supporting: The Prodigy

18 October 1997 - Forest Nationale, Brussels, Belgium * Supporting: The Prodigy

19 October 1997 - The Ahoy, Rotterdam, Netherlands * Supporting: The Prodigy

24 October 1997 - Hartwell Arena, Helsinki, Finland * Supporting: The Prodigy

25 October 1997 - Spektrum, Oslo, Norway * Supporting: The Prodigy

26 October 1997 - Student Festival, Trondheim, Norway * Supporting: The Prodigy

30 October 1997 Thursday - Garden Hall, Ebisu, Tokyo, Japan * Doors Open: 18:00 * Ticket Price: Y5,500
Notes: Exclusive 'Japanese Tour 1997' Tour Programme folds out to reveal a, 8 page, poster of John Squire on one side, band photos on another side and tour dates. Programme photos supplied by Pennie Smith.
Bootleg: Tape - Ebisu, Japan 30/10/97 (DAT) + London Empire 8/12/97 (FM) (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Priced: (£7))

02 November 1997 Sunday - Blitz, Akasaka, Japan * Doors Open: 18:00 * Ticket Price: Y5,500
Bootleg: Audience Recording

04 November 1997 Tuesday - Diamond Hall, Nagoya, Japan
Notes: Date taken from Japanese programme.

05 November 1997 Wednesday - IMP Hall, Osaka, Japan
Notes: Date taken from Japanese programme.

06 November 1997 Thursday - Liquid Rood, Tokyo, Japan
Notes: Date taken from Japanese programme.
Bootleg: Do It Yourself Again () - Audience Recording -

11 November 1997 - Blitz Hall, Tokyo
Notes: Incorrect Date taken from Japanese programme. Re-arranged to 02 November 1997 due to Oasis tour commitments/mis-type?

1997 - Radio 3, Spain
Blinded By The Sun (Acoustic) / Movin' On (Acoustic)
Notes: Acoustic Radio Session

10 November 1997 Monday - Palacio de la Commidad, Madrid, Spain * Supporting: Oasis

11 November 1997 Tuesday - Palacio de los Deportes, Barcelona, Spain * Supporting: Oasis

13 November 1997 Thursday - Geneva Arena, Switzerland * Supporting: Oasis

15 November 1997 Saturday - Palazzetto delo Sport Casalecchio del reno, Bologna, Italy * Supporting: Oasis
Notes: Martin was John's guitar technician. Gina Morris from Melody Maker Magazine was on tour with the bands, see 06 December 1997 for her news report and article.

16 November 1997 - Mani's 35th birthday

16 November 1997 Sunday - Fila Forum Assago, Milan, Italy * Supporting: Oasis

17 November 1997 Monday - Fila Forum Assago, Milan, Italy * Supporting: Oasis

TV - 18 November 1997 Tuesday - Later With Jools Holland, BBC TV Centre, Wood Lane, Shephers Bush, London, NW11
Soundcheck: 11.30-12.30. 13:15-14:30 Run Thru & Camera Rehearsal. 20:30 Start Recording. 23:00 Clear Studio.
Love Is The Law / You Can Talk To Me
Notes: Jools interviews Chris and John too.
From Tour Itinerary: Lobby Call & Checkout 6:00am prompt. Please try to bring small bags only. Flight BA 563 Departs Linate Airport 7:55am. Flight arrives 9:10am LHR (London Heathrow). 3 x Previas transport us to later with jools studios. CTC Tina/Emila...Soundcheck: 11.30-12.30. 12.30-13:15 Lunch. 13:15-14:30 Run Thru & Camera Rehearsal. 14:30 Depart For Hotel. 15:15 Check In Hotel, Regents Park Marriott, 128 King Henry's Road, Swiss Cottage, London, NW33ST...19:30 Depart For Studios, 20:30 Start Recording, 23:00ish Clear Studio, 23:15 Return To Hotel. Songs to be performed Talk To Me & 5 minute version of Love Is The Law. Other Artists appearing on the show are Portishead, Faithless & Tanya Donnelly.
Video Bootleg: Pro-Shot - VHS / DVD - The Seahorses Collected (Made by Sander for fans) - 2 DVD-R
Video Bootleg: Seahorses TV Appearances/Promos/Glastonbury/London 1997 (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Running Time(Approx): 2.5hours. Priced: £17) - VHS (PAL, NTSC) Love Is The Law (Top Of The Pops) / Love Is The Law (Promo video) / Love Is The Law (Live on MTV) / Stone Roses - Begging You (Promo video) / Blinded By The Sun (Promo video)(p / Love Me And Leave Me (Live on TFI Friday) / Love Me And Leave Me (Top Of The Pops) / Love Me And Leave Me (Promo video) / You Can Talk To Me (Live on TFI Friday) / Love Is The Law (Live on Jools Holland) / Chris and John interview (Live on Jools Holland) / You Can Talk To Me (Live on Jools Holland) / You Can Talk To Me (Promo video) / Stone Roses - Love Spreads (Promo video) / You Can Talk To Me (Top Of The Pops) / Glastonbury Festival 1997 (selected songs) / London Forum 1997 - Video

19 November 1997 Wednesday - Olympiahalle, Munich, Germany * Soundcheck: 17:30 * Doors Open: 18:00, on stage: 19:45-20:30, Oasis: 21:00 * Supporting: Oasis
From Tour Itinerary: Lobby Call & Checkout 6:45am prompt. 3 x Previas will transport us to LHR. Flight LH4545 Terminal 2 Departs 09:25am. Arrives Munich 12:05, Dave will pick us up in tour bus then transport to venue. Arrive at Venue approx 13:30, Soundcheck 17:30...Depart for day off in Prague midnight. There is no media scheduled or otherwise for day off in Prague but John and Chris will have 1.5hrs each on the showday from the hotel.

21 November 1997 Thursday - Sportovni Hala, Prague, Czech Republic * Supporting: Oasis

22 November 1997 Friday - Deutschlandhalle, Berlin, Germany * Supporting: Oasis

24 November 1997 - John Squire's 35th birthday
24 November 1997 Sunday - Messehalle, Hannover, Germany * Supporting: Oasis

25 November 1997 Monday - Frankfurt Festhalle, Germany * Supporting: Oasis

27 November 1997 Tuesday - Netherlands
Notes: Chris Helme Interview
Bootleg: FM Recording

27 November 1997 Wednesday - Brabanthallen, Den Bosch, The Netherlands * Supporting: Oasis
Bootleg: Audience Recording
Bootleg: Unconfirmed - Cruising Down Suicide Drive 11/97

28 November 1997 Thursday - Oberhausen Arena, Germany * Supporting: Oasis

The Seahorses - 01 December 1997 - You Can Talk To Me U.K. Release Date
You Can Talk To Me - Written by John Squire and Chris Helme.
Don't Cry - Written by Chris Helme.
Produced by Youth. Recorded October 1997 London.
7inch Vinyl
Cassette
CD
You Can Talk To Me / Don't Cry / 3 Wide
Notes: Charted at Number 15 in the UK.
From 1998 - Top Of The Pops Q&A Session, Ian Brown said: Paul asks: "Do you feel sorry for John Squire, now he's come out of the Roses making much worse music than you?" Ian Brown: "When a man makes his bed, he must lie in it."...
From March 2002 - I Am Without Shoes (thestoneroses.net) Interview with Andy Watts: IAWS: What is your favourite Seahorses song? AW: Er....um... I'd say You Can Talk To Me is my favourite, actually. I'm a bit jealous I never played the drums on that, it's a great song. In terms of the album, I'd say Hello - absolutely gorgeous song. And then, probably, Blinded By The Sun. I still get goose bumps when I hear them.

02 December 1997 Tuesday - Town Hall, Middlesbrough * Doors Open: 19:00 * Ticket Price: £11.50 * Support Act(s):
Bootleg: Tape - Middlesbrough Town Hall 2/12/97 (DAT) (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Priced: (£7))

03 December 1997 Wednesday - Royal Court, Roe St., L11HL, Liverpool * Doors Open: 19:00 * Ticket Price: £11.50

04 December 1997 Thursday - Winter Gardens, Margate * Ticket Price: £11.50 * Support Act(s):
Bootleg: Tape - Margate Winter Gardens 4/12/97 (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Priced: (£7))

TV * 05 December 1997 Friday - TFI Friday (Thank Four It's Friday), Channel 4 TV Studio, London
You Can Talk To Me
Notes: T.F.I. Friday, Series 3, Channel 4 TV Programme. All Saints and Faith No More also performed.
The series ran over 4 years and included 205 episodes with long term cast Chris Evans, Will Macdonald and Andrew Carey. The show made a brief, and unwelcome, comeback in 2015.
Video Bootleg: Seahorses TV Appearances/Promos/Glastonbury/London 1997 (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Running Time(Approx): 2.5hours. Priced: £17) - VHS (PAL, NTSC) Love Is The Law (Top Of The Pops) / Love Is The Law (Promo video) / Love Is The Law (Live on MTV) / Stone Roses - Begging You (Promo video) / Blinded By The Sun (Promo video)(p / Love Me And Leave Me (Live on TFI Friday) / Love Me And Leave Me (Top Of The Pops) / Love Me And Leave Me (Promo video) / You Can Talk To Me (Live on TFI Friday) / Love Is The Law (Live on Jools Holland) / Chris and John interview (Live on Jools Holland) / You Can Talk To Me (Live on Jools Holland) / You Can Talk To Me (Promo video) / Stone Roses - Love Spreads (Promo video) / You Can Talk To Me (Top Of The Pops) / Glastonbury Festival 1997 (selected songs) / London Forum 1997 - Video
Video Bootleg: Pro-Shot - VHS / DVD - The Seahorses Collected (Made by Sander for fans) - 2 DVD-R

M * 06 December 1997 - Seahorses appear on the front cover of Melody Maker
Notes: Headline read 'The Italian Job! The Seahorses storm Europe (with a little help from Oasis!)'
Gina Morris wrote an article and had travelled with the band in Italy. She mentioned Squire fan 'Irene Ferrata' too.

06 December 1997 Saturday - Olympia, Dublin, Ireland * Ticket Price: £11.50 * Support Act(s):
Kill Pussycat Kill / Hello / Happiness Is Eggshaped / Standing On Your Head
Bootleg: Audience Recording
Bootleg: A Night To Remember (1997 Live Compilation) - Intro / 3 Wide (14 December 1997 Sunday - University, Exeter) / Round The Universe (27 June 1997 Friday - Glastonbury Festival) / Suicide Drive (27 June 1997 Friday - Glastonbury Festival) / Boy In The Picture (09 December 1997 Tuesday - Sheperds Bush Empire) / Love Me & Leave Me (09 December 1997 Tuesday - Sheperds Bush Empire) / Kill Pussycat Kill (06 December 1997 Saturday - Olympia, Dublin) / Moving On (26 April 1997 - The Garage, Glasgow) / Blinded By The Sun (27 June 1997 Friday - Glastonbury Festival) / Hello (06 December 1997 Saturday - Olympia, Dublin) / Happiness Is Eggshaped (06 December 1997 Saturday - Olympia, Dublin) / 1999 (09 December 1997 Tuesday - Sheperds Bush Empire) / Standing On Your Head (06 December 1997 Saturday - Olympia, Dublin) / Love Is The Law (09 December 1997 Tuesday - Sheperds Bush Empire) / I Want You To Know (09 December 1997 Tuesday - Sheperds Bush Empire) / You Can Talk To Me (09 December 1997 Tuesday - Sheperds Bush Empire)

07 December 1997 Sunday - University, Belfast, Northern Ireland * Ticket Price: £11.50 * Support Act(s):

09 December 1997 Tuesday - Sheperds Bush Empire, Shephers Bush Green, London, W12 * Doors Open: 19:00 * Ticket Price: £12.50 * Support Act(s):
Blinded By The Sun / I Want You To Know / The Boy In The Picture / Love Me & Leave Me / 1999 / Love Is The Law / You Can Talk To Me
Notes: Was their two dates?
Broadcast:
Bootleg: FM/TV/Mix - Radiowaves Live 1997 (1997 (incorrectly stamped '1991' on the CD-R), Skull Records, SIAE, Made In The UK, cat. no. SKULL01 S01. (What came first Radiowaves or First Steps? Similar tracklists, same sources, same era but this UK produce is only a CD-R, with silver face and printed text. Glossy paper printed cover and rear sleeve. Rather than the UK B-Side bonus tracks (featured on First Steps), Radio Waves includes tracks from the London show)) - CD-R - Glastonbury Festival 1997 - Suicide Drive / The Boy In The Picture / Blinded By The Sun / Love Is The Law - 29 May 1997 - BBC In Concert, Evening Session, BBC Radio 1, London - Suicide Drive / Blinded By The Sun / Want You To Know / Love Me And Leave Me - BBC TV Session 1997 - Love Is The Law
SHEPHERDS BUSH EMPIRE 08.12.97 (09 December 1997 Tuesday - Sheperds Bush Empire, London) Blinded By The Sun / I Want You To Know / The Boy In The Picture / Love Me & Leave Me / 1999 / Love Is The Law / You Can Talk To Me
Bootleg: Squire's Law (Will Odell noted 'live in London 12/97 (FM) + first show from Glasgow 4/97') - (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell) . Priced: (£12)) - CD-R
Bootleg: Tape - Ebisu, Japan 30/10/97 (DAT) + London Empire 8/12/97 (FM) (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Priced: (£7))
Bootleg: A Night To Remember (1997 Live Compilation) - Intro / 3 Wide (14 December 1997 Sunday - University, Exeter) / Round The Universe (27 June 1997 Friday - Glastonbury Festival) / Suicide Drive (27 June 1997 Friday - Glastonbury Festival) / Boy In The Picture (09 December 1997 Tuesday - Sheperds Bush Empire) / Love Me & Leave Me (09 December 1997 Tuesday - Sheperds Bush Empire) / Kill Pussycat Kill (06 December 1997 Saturday - Olympia, Dublin) / Moving On (26 April 1997 - The Garage, Glasgow) / Blinded By The Sun (27 June 1997 Friday - Glastonbury Festival) / Hello (06 December 1997 Saturday - Olympia, Dublin) / Happiness Is Eggshaped (06 December 1997 Saturday - Olympia, Dublin) / 1999 (09 December 1997 Tuesday - Sheperds Bush Empire) / Standing On Your Head (06 December 1997 Saturday - Olympia, Dublin) / Love Is The Law (09 December 1997 Tuesday - Sheperds Bush Empire) / I Want You To Know (09 December 1997 Tuesday - Sheperds Bush Empire) / You Can Talk To Me (09 December 1997 Tuesday - Sheperds Bush Empire)

10 December 1997 Wednesday - Kilburn National, London * Ticket Price: £12.50 *

TV - 12 December 1997 Friday - Top Of The Pops Tv Show, BBC Studios, London
You Can Talk To Me
Bootleg: Ian Brown TV Appearances (90 mins) + Seahorses TV Appearances (60 mins) () (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Priced: £17) - VHS Video
Video Bootleg: Pro-Shot - VHS / DVD - The Seahorses Collected (Made by Sander for fans) - 2 DVD-R
Video Bootleg: Seahorses TV Appearances/Promos/Glastonbury/London 1997 (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Running Time(Approx): 2.5hours. Priced: £17) - VHS (PAL, NTSC) Love Is The Law (Top Of The Pops) / Love Is The Law (Promo video) / Love Is The Law (Live on MTV) / Stone Roses - Begging You (Promo video) / Blinded By The Sun (Promo video)(p / Love Me And Leave Me (Live on TFI Friday) / Love Me And Leave Me (Top Of The Pops) / Love Me And Leave Me (Promo video) / You Can Talk To Me (Live on TFI Friday) / Love Is The Law (Live on Jools Holland) / Chris and John interview (Live on Jools Holland) / You Can Talk To Me (Live on Jools Holland) / You Can Talk To Me (Promo video) / Stone Roses - Love Spreads (Promo video) / You Can Talk To Me (Top Of The Pops) / Glastonbury Festival 1997 (selected songs) / London Forum 1997 - Video

John Squire - Guitar
Chris Helme - Vocals & Guitar
Stuart Fletcher - Bass Guitar
Mal Scott - Drummer

12 December 1997 Friday - Dome, Leisure Park, Doncaster, DN47ND * Doors Open: 19:00 * Ticket Price: £11.50 * Support Act(s): Third Eye Blind *

13 December 1997 Saturday - Corn Exchange, Cambridge * Ticket Price: £11.50 * Support Act(s): Third Eye Blind *

14 December 1997 Sunday - University, Exeter * Ticket Price: £11.50 * Support Act(s): Third Eye Blind *
Intro / 3 Wide
Bootleg: Audience Recording
Bootleg: A Night To Remember (1997 Live Compilation) - Intro / 3 Wide (14 December 1997 Sunday - University, Exeter) / Round The Universe (27 June 1997 Friday - Glastonbury Festival) / Suicide Drive (27 June 1997 Friday - Glastonbury Festival) / Boy In The Picture (09 December 1997 Tuesday - Sheperds Bush Empire) / Love Me & Leave Me (09 December 1997 Tuesday - Sheperds Bush Empire) / Kill Pussycat Kill (06 December 1997 Saturday - Olympia, Dublin) / Moving On (26 April 1997 - The Garage, Glasgow) / Blinded By The Sun (27 June 1997 Friday - Glastonbury Festival) / Hello (06 December 1997 Saturday - Olympia, Dublin) / Happiness Is Eggshaped (06 December 1997 Saturday - Olympia, Dublin) / 1999 (09 December 1997 Tuesday - Sheperds Bush Empire) / Standing On Your Head (06 December 1997 Saturday - Olympia, Dublin) / Love Is The Law (09 December 1997 Tuesday - Sheperds Bush Empire) / I Want You To Know (09 December 1997 Tuesday - Sheperds Bush Empire) / You Can Talk To Me (09 December 1997 Tuesday - Sheperds Bush Empire)

16 December 1997 Tuesday - Guildhall, Portsmouth * Ticket Price: £11.50 * Support Act(s): Third Eye Blind *

17 December 1997 Wednesday - Newport Centre, Newport * Ticket Price: £11.50 * Support Act(s): Third Eye Blind *

18 December 1997 Thursday - Apollo, Ardwick Green, Manchester, M126AP * Doors Open: 19:00 * Ticket Price: £11.50 * Support Act(s): Third Eye Blind *

19 December 1997 Friday - Civic Hall, Wolverhampton * Ticket Price: £11.50 * Support Act(s): Third Eye Blind *

21 December 1997 Sunday - Music Hall, Aberdeen * Ticket Price: £11.50 * Support Act(s): Third Eye Blind *

22 December 1997 Monday - Barrowlands, Glasgow * Ticket Price: £11.50 * Support Act(s): Third Eye Blind *
Notes: Sold Out Show.

23 December 1997 Tuesday - Barrowlands, Glasgow * Ticket Price: £11.50 * Support Act(s): Third Eye Blind *
Notes: Sold Out Show.

1998
Chris Helme - Vocals & Acoustic Guitar
John Squire - Lead Guitar
Stuart Fletcher - Bass
Mark Heaney - Drums

1998 - John Squire / Seahorses - The Interview
Notes: Interview with Chris Helme and John Squire.
Official:
Bootleg: Stone Roses / Seahorses : The Interview (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). "To hear John Squire talk about the break up of the Stone Roses from his own eyes, and his opinions on One Love, the rest of the band, his new band, Chris Helme, the Revolver paint job, the Roses court cases, Reni leaving... and also to hear Chris Helme talk about his background and how the Seahorses came about." Cassette Originally Priced: £3, Running Time (Approx): 50mins) Tape

20 February 1998 - Ian Brown's 35th birthday

30 March 1998 - The Witchwood, Ashton Under Lyne
700 Horses / Won't Let You Fall / I Want You To Know / You Can Talk To Me / City In The Sky / Tombraid / Love Is The Law
Notes: Secret Show, unconfirmed if 03 March or 30 March 1998.
Bootleg: Tape (Incorrect speed) - Audience Recording
Bootleg: 4 Horses (Will noted "- secret show from Ashton Witchwood 30/3/98, features lots of unreleased songs.") (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Priced: £12) - CD-R
Bootleg: A Tarquin Live Master - Audience Recording
Bootleg: On A Tomb Raid (1998 Live Compilation) - Feel Like A God (14 May 1998 - The Buckley, Tivoli, Wales) / Blinded By The Sun (11 July 1998 Saturday - T-In The Park Festival) / 700 Horses (03 March 1998 - Ashton, Witchwood) / Won't Let You Fall (03 March 1998 - Ashton, Witchwood) / I Want You To Know (03 March 1998 - Ashton, Witchwood) / Hello (11 July 1998 Saturday - T-In The Park Festival) / Reach Out (14 May 1998 - The Buckley, Tivoli, Wales) / You Can Talk To Me (03 March 1998 - Ashton, Witchwood) / Love Me & Leave Me (11 July 1998 Saturday - T-In The Park Festival) / City In The Sky (03 March 1998 - Ashton, Witchwood) / Tombraid (03 March 1998 - Ashton, Witchwood) / Love Is The Law (03 March 1998 - Ashton, Witchwood) / Moth (11 July 1998 Saturday - T-In The Park Festival) / Round The Universe (11 July 1998 Saturday - T-In The Park Festival)

30 March 1998 - The Lomax, Liverpool * Supporting: Santa Cruz
Notes: Unconfirmed show.

10 April 1998 - Reni's 34th birthday

16 April 1998 - Gloucestershire * Supporting: Santa Cruz

18 April 1998 - Ashton-Under-Lyme * Supporting: Santa Cruz

19 April 1998 - Citadel, St Helens * Supporting: Santa Cruz

20 April 1998 - Sugarmill, Stoke * Supporting: Santa Cruz

1998 - Demo Sessions, Blackburn
Reach Out / Feel Like A God (Alternative Version)
Bootleg: Feel Like A God (Demo) (excerpt)

13 May 1998 - St. Georges Hall, Blackburn

14 May 1998 - The Buckley, Tivoli, Wales
Feel Like A God / Reach Out
Notes:
Bootleg: Audience Recording - Tape / CD-R
Bootleg: On A Tomb Raid (1998 Live Compilation) - Feel Like A God (14 May 1998 - The Buckley, Tivoli, Wales) / Blinded By The Sun (11 July 1998 Saturday - T-In The Park Festival) / 700 Horses (03 March 1998 - Ashton, Witchwood) / Won't Let You Fall (03 March 1998 - Ashton, Witchwood) / I Want You To Know (03 March 1998 - Ashton, Witchwood) / Hello (11 July 1998 Saturday - T-In The Park Festival) / Reach Out (14 May 1998 - The Buckley, Tivoli, Wales) / You Can Talk To Me (03 March 1998 - Ashton, Witchwood) / Love Me & Leave Me (11 July 1998 Saturday - T-In The Park Festival) / City In The Sky (03 March 1998 - Ashton, Witchwood) / Tombraid (03 March 1998 - Ashton, Witchwood) / Love Is The Law (03 March 1998 - Ashton, Witchwood) / Moth (11 July 1998 Saturday - T-In The Park Festival) / Round The Universe (11 July 1998 Saturday - T-In The Park Festival)

08 July 1998 - The Roadmender, Ladys Lane, Northampton * Doors Open: 18:30 - On Stage: 22:15 * Ticket Price: £ * Support Act(s):

09 July 1998 Thursday - Parr Hall, Palmyra Square South, Warrington, WA11BL * Doors Open: 19:30 * Ticket Price: £10.50
Bootleg: Audience Recording

11 July 1998 Saturday - T-In The Park Festival, Main Stage, Balado, Kincross, Scotland * Doors Open: 18:00 * Ticket Price: £29.50 (Day Ticket) £54.00 (Weekend Ticket) * Support Act(s): Robbie Williams, Space, Catatonia, Travis and more.
Tomb Raid / Blinded By The Sun / One In A Million / I Want You To Know / Love Me And Leave Me / Round The Universe / City In The Sky / You Can Talk To Me / Moth / Moving On / Love Is The Law
Notes: Ian Brown performed on the Sunday. I wonder if Ian & John's paths crossed during the festival? The band were second to headliner's Prodigy on the main stage. Travis played the festival, John Squire designed the surfboard on their 1997 single sleeve 'U16 Girls'.
From 1998 - Top Of The Pops Q&A: Taity asks: "what is your favourite band Ian?? Is it the Seahorses????" Ian Brown: "Surprisingly, it isn't. No, Taity. But it would be James Brown's "All Stars"."
Bootleg: T In The Park (Will noted "FULL set from T in the Park 10/7/98 with many unreleased songs.") (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Priced: £12) - CD-R
Bootleg: THE SEAHORSES & IAN BROWN - T IN THE PARK 1998 (G-Productions Compact Discs. Originally priced at £13 plus £1 postage in the U.K.) - 2 CDR - Audience/Audience - CDR1 12 July 1998 Sunday - T-In The Park Festival Ian Brown: Little Wing (Jimi Hendrix cover) / Nah Nah / Corpses / What Happened To Ya Part 1 / See The Dawn / What Happened To Ya Part 2 / Ice Cold Cube / Dear Prudence (The Beatles cover) - My Star / Can't See Me / Sunshine - Bonus Track: Interview with Jo Whiley, Radio 1 - CDR2 11 July 1998 Saturday - T-In The Park Festival Seahorses: Tomb Raid / Blinded By The Sun / One In A Million / I Want You To Know / Love Me And Leave Me / Round The Universe / City In The Sky / You Can Talk To Me / Moth / Moving On / Love Is The Law - Bonus Track: Unreleased / unedited interview for KWVA Eugene, US Radio
Bootleg: On A Tomb Raid (1998 Live Compilation) - Feel Like A God (14 May 1998 - The Buckley, Tivoli, Wales) / Blinded By The Sun (11 July 1998 Saturday - T-In The Park Festival) / 700 Horses (03 March 1998 - Ashton, Witchwood) / Won't Let You Fall (03 March 1998 - Ashton, Witchwood) / I Want You To Know (03 March 1998 - Ashton, Witchwood) / Hello (11 July 1998 Saturday - T-In The Park Festival) / Reach Out (14 May 1998 - The Buckley, Tivoli, Wales) / You Can Talk To Me (03 March 1998 - Ashton, Witchwood) / Love Me & Leave Me (11 July 1998 Saturday - T-In The Park Festival) / City In The Sky (03 March 1998 - Ashton, Witchwood) / Tombraid (03 March 1998 - Ashton, Witchwood) / Love Is The Law (03 March 1998 - Ashton, Witchwood) / Moth (11 July 1998 Saturday - T-In The Park Festival) / Round The Universe (11 July 1998 Saturday - T-In The Park Festival)
Video Bootleg: Shot - VHS / DVD - The Seahorses Collected (Made by Sander for fans) - 2 DVD-R

16 July 1998 - Puerto De Malaga, Malaga, Spain * Supporting: Rolling Stones
From Stuart Fletcher interview by Matt Mead published 11 February 2019: Do you have any favourite memories of being on the road? What goes on tour, stays on tour! Lots of great memories from touring. I freaked Charlie Watts out backstage once when we were supporting the Rolling Stones. I went to a Terrorvision aftershow and drank an entire bottle of tequila straight down then said “What? It makes me happy” You do some stupid stuff on tour but you have to get me drunk first to hear all my rock and roll stories

18 July 1998 - Est. Mun. De Balaidos, Vigo, Spain * Supporting: Rolling Stones

20 July 1998 - Olympic Stadium, Barcelona, Spain * Supporting: Rolling Stones

29 July 1998 - Parken Stadium, Copenhagen, Denmark * Supporting: Rolling Stones

31 July 1998 - Ullevi Stadium, Göteborg, Sweden * Supporting: Rolling Stones

02 August 1998 - Vallehovin, Oslo, Norway * Supporting: Rolling Stones

04 August 1998 - Tavastia, Helsinki, Finland * Supporting: The Posies

05 August 1998 - Olympic Stadium, Helsinki, Finland * Supporting: Rolling Stones

John Squire - Guitar
Chris Helme - Vocals and Guitar
Stuart Fletcher - Bass
Mark Heaney - Drums
From V98 & Warm Up Shows - August 1998 Tour Itinerary:
Manager - Steve Atherthon
Tour Manager - Chris Griffiths
Guitar Tech - Martin Herbert
Sound - Peter Russell
Monitors - Charlie Bradley
Drum Tech - Allen Smith
Security - Rob Rankine
Wardrobe - Susan Devine
Sprinter Bus Driver - Lawrence Pont
Truck Driver - Peter Sherratt

18 August 1998 - Radio 1 Roadshow, Bournemouth

19 August 1998 Wednesday - Beirkeller, All Saints Street, Bristol, BS12NA * Soundcheck: 14:00 * Support Act(s): Bad Man Wagon
From V98 & Warm Up Shows - August 1998 Tour Itinerary: Allen Smith picks up York Crew 10.00am outside The Palace Hotel, Manchester...Load In: 13:00, Soundcheck: 14:00, Support Soundcheck: When We Finish, Doors: 19:30, Support: 20:30-21:00, The Seahorses: 21:30-22:30, Curfew: 23:00. Hotel: Jurys, Prince Street, Bristol, BS14QF

20 August 1998 - Rock City, Nottingham

22 August 1998 Saturday - V98, V Festival, Hylands Park, Chelmsford * Ticket Price: Weekend without camping £55, Weekend with camping £64, Day Tickets £30 * Supports Act(s): Green Day, Lightning Seeds, Chumbawamba, Iggy Pop and more.
Notes: Seahorses were second to headliner The Verve.

23 August 1998 Sunday - V98, V Festival, Temple Newsam Park, Leeds * Ticket Price: Weekend without camping £55, Weekend with camping £62, Day Tickets £30 * Supports Act(s): Green Day, Lightning Seeds, Chumbawamba, Iggy Pop and more.
Notes: Seahorses were second to headliner The Verve.

29 August 1998 - Slane Castle, Main Stage, Co. Meath, Ireland
Round The Universe / Tomb Raid / Blinded By The Sun / What Can You See? / I Want You To know / Love Me And Leave Me / One In A Million / You Can Talk To Me / Hello (Acoustic) / Love Is The Law
Notes: This would be the band's last live show.
Bootleg: Complete Audience Recording (Gear and taper: unknown. Transfer by drumsboy. Cassette transfer via Technics RSBX404 through a MOTU 828MKII into Logic pro at 24bit/44.1kHz. Dithering to 16-bit by slate digital FG-X. Pitch correction in Audactiy as the original recording was one semi-tone sharp. Freac conversion to FLAC and md5 files created by MD5.)

1998 - Riverside Studios, York
Feel Like A God

Second Album Sessions
City In The Sky / Tomb Raid / One In A Million / Moth
Notes: David Bottrill was the producer during the sessions. Mark Heaney, Peterborough Jazz and Session Drummer, drummed for the recording sessions.
From Stuart Fletcher interview by Matt Mead published 11 February 2019: What happened with the 2nd album? We’d finished the year on a high with a tour of Japan, a tour of Europe supporting Oasis and then our own UK tour finishing with two sold out nights at Glasgow Barrowlands. Chris and I had become very close with the then drummer Mal Scott and I don’t think John liked that. He felt Mal was very safe and wanted someone more technical for the new material. That hit us quite hard I think as it started a bit of them and us when we should really have been a unit and discussed those sort of decisions together. I think at this point it also became very clear John wanted to monopolise the writing of the songs on the album as that’s where the money is rather than just all working together. This started some kind of competition between Chris and John with both writing separately and rejecting each other’s songs, rather than before where they would work together to develop them. I could tell John had become frustrated with the whole thing as I was having to write four or five bass lines for every song as he just wasn’t happy with anything. I’ve listened to some of the alternative versions and I don’t think there’s anything wrong with anyone’s playing, just weak songs and we were massively over-critical of everything. Of course that’s just my opinion as you never know what goes on in John’s head. He’s very hard to read and you wouldn’t ever get him to open up truthfully in interviews as he’s too good at thought out, rehearsed responses. Who knows, we might see his memoirs one day and I’ll be as shocked as anyone. I’m still good friends with Chris and continue to record and perform with him. Even then, our memory and opinions can sometimes differ as we both saw and thought different things at the time.
Were you all happy whilst you were recording the album? I watched Chris turn a Larrivee guitar into match sticks during that session so I would say probably not. I think I’d given up by this point, which only added to John’s annoyance with the whole thing. “Difficult second album” is a well-known phrase for a reason.
Why didn’t it get released? It was never finished. We only got as far as demoing really and then a bootleg came out after we’d split.
When did the band start to separate? John had written a song called Tomb Raid after the Playstation game. Although he did toy with the lyrics (On a night train and Cocaine as alternatives) he eventually settled on Tomb Raid. Chris saw himself as a serious songwriter and didn’t want to sing lyrics John had just thrown together about Lara Croft. Chris discussed this with John and John said he should be able to sing a telephone directory with feeling. Chris disagreed.

From 19 May 2000 NME article: He admitted, "There was a personality clash during rehearsals. When he came up with new stuff [for the follow-up to 1997's 'Do It Yourself'] I didn't like his lyrics or tunes. I could have gone with it and made quite a lot of money, but I wasn't interested."
And John Fletcher, father of Stuart Fletcher (bassist in The Seahorses) responded with this (on The Seahorses mailing list): "I think its a shame for Chris to slag off John Squire in the music press, who probably fell over themselves to print it - not a lot of difference between them and the gutter tabloids. Chris owes JS a lot - regardless of the fact that he wasn't keen on John's lyrics or tunes. However, it was these very things that turned Chris into a household (?) name, and to broadcast their differences just smacks of sour grapes.
"My personal opinion, is that Chris should have recorded the second album, having come so far with it, and then cited musical differences and left the band gracefully, pocketing some money to finance a solo project. He would have kept more fans that way, who would have supported both him AND Squire! I don't care what he says - the Horses were a great band, and to give the impression that he hated every minute does him no credit at all."

November 1998 - Total Guitar Magazine
Notes: See Seahorses Media for the complete article.

16 November 1998 - Mani's 36th birthday
24 November 1998 - John Squire's 36th birthday

1999
January 1999 - Second LP Recordings, Olympic Studios, Barnes, London)
Night Train
700 Horses
Anamorphosis
I Want You
Cocksucker Blues
Reach Out
Dolphin
Something Tells Me
What Can You See? (Into The Light)
Tombraid
Notes: Produced by David Bottrill. Working LP titles included "Minus Blue", "Motorcade" and "Into The Light".
I Want You was later re-worked with Reluctance during the Backridge Farm Sessions and in turn John reshaped the song into Strange Feeling which appeared on his debut solo LP Time Changes Everything.
Bootleg: Minus Blue
Bootleg: 2nd Album Recording
Bootleg: Squirt
Bootleg: Secret Songs Across The Sky
Bootleg: Anamorphosis

20 February 1999 - Ian Brown's 36th birthday

01 March 1999 - John Squire announces the break-up of The Seahorses.
Notes: Mark Heaney still jammed with John and would later be included in the Squire formed group 'Reluctance' (see 2001).
Chris Chris Helme, described Squire’s new songs as “muso wank” and said
that during his time in The Seahorses, Squire had played his guitar so
loud onstage he had developed permanent tinnitus.
From Stuart Fletcher interview by Matt Mead published 11 February 2019: Was there an official ending to the band? We sat down and had a meeting and differences couldn’t be resolved so that was that. Apart from my guitar which I refused to hand over, all my gear was sold out from under me to pay off debts which I later learned never existed. Thankfully it was only the thing I was left with in the end. I actually had more equipment when I joined the band than when I left it as they sold all my amps. I remember Chris telling me he walked past a music shop in Doncaster and then walked out minutes later with his own amp! As John was the only member of the band signed to Geffen, we never knew if he had any debt when we separated or we’d recouped as Chris and I have never seen any sales figures or band accounts then or to this day. What did you do immediately after The Seahorses? I ended up doing a session on TFI Friday with Shaun Ryder and Russell Watson playing a cover of Barcelona. Paul Banks and I both played on that session and shared a room down in London. Paul Ryder was unavailable at the time to do the Happy Mondays gigs lined up afterwards so I was asked to step in. I ended up doing all the Oasis supports in the UK in 2000 for the Be Here Now tour and Glastonbury mainstage with Bowie. I ended up walking off with Bowie’s lighter after that gig, off my face.
From 16 February 2000 Wednesday - music365.com Ian Brown Q & A Session: My_Star: Do you feel sorry at all about the situation John put Chris Helme in. Chris' new stuff is a million times better than the 'Horses stuff was. Ian: I honestly couldn't give a fuck… No, forget that. I'm desperately sorry, I haven't slept properly since The Seahorses broke up.

Chris Helme - 23 March 1999 - The Improv Club, Tottenham Court Road, London, W1
Notes: Show was announced early March (at least by 11 March 1999 Thursday).
From 20 October 1999 - NME.COM: "...In March, 'Horses frontman Chris Helme attempted to launch himself as a solo artist at a low-key gig in London. Since that gig, it seems, he's been unable to secure a record deal. Former Seahorse Heaney, a session and jazz musician from Peterborough, replaced original drummer Andy Watts last year and had started work on the 'Horses' second album, the follow-up to their debut 'Do It Yourself'. Before the split, titles of tracks being rehearsed for the planned album included 'City In The Sky', 'Tomb Raid', 'One In A Million' and 'Moth'. It's understood many of the tracks penned by Squire at the time will feature on his new album."

M - 1999 - Total Guitar Magazine
Notes: John Leckie talks about recording Fools Gold. See 1999 Seahorses for the complete article.

10 April 1999 - Reni's 35th birthday

The Rising
Notes: Stuart Fletcher forms The Rising. The shortlived band consisted of Paul Banks (ex-Shed Seven), Stuart Fletcher (ex-The Seahorses), Maxi (ex-Audioweb) and frontman David McKellar. A 5 Track CD-r was circulating circa 2000 with the bands contact details on and 5 tracks (1 All My Life, 2 Feeling Alright, 3 Lies Spread, 4 Full Of Holes, 5 Find Your Level)

09 August 1999 - John Squire forms 'Reluctance' and records four demos.

20 October 1999 - John Squire 'Reluctance' New from NME.COM
Notes: Ex-VERVE bassist Simon Jones has joined John Squire's new band and the two are writing new material in a Manchester rehearsal studio.
The rest of the band are made up of ex-Seahorses drummer Mark Heaney and an unnamed singer from Manchester. It's been previously rumoured that Squire's new project is called Reluctance, although his management deny this.
Another name being considered is John Squire's Skunk Works, named after a Californian-based weapons systems plant, where the U2 spy plane was developed for the US government. An insider told NME: "It's all going really well apparently. Simon (Jones) is excited about it and it takes something special for him to get excited." Squire has been working on new material since The Seahorses split in February.
From September - October 1999 - On Target Magazine, Mani Interview: Any news on John Squire? "Apparently John's got this thing coming together called Skunkworks or something. I feel sorry for the guys from The Seahorses because they've been picked up, used and dropped just like he did with us an' we were his mates man. Motherfucker...

16 November 1999 - Mani's 37th birthday
24 November 1999 - John Squire's 37th birthday

20 February 2000 - Ian Brown's 37th birthday
10 April 2000 - Reni's 36th birthday

Chris Helme - Promo
Engineered, Produced and Mixed by Head.
Matter Of Time (Demo) / So Alive (Demo) / (You Are My) Sunrise
Notes: Chris Helme all songs written by Chris Helme. CDr with hype contact details. LD Publicity & Promotions, Paula Gregory - Press, Tony Cooke - Radio and Andy Cook for Management, AEC.

Chris Helme - 19 May 2000 - Chris Helme has two albums worth of material written.
From 19 May 2000 NME article: Former SEAHORSES frontman CHRIS HELME has attacked his old band's songwriter JOHN SQUIRE, describing his material as "muso wank". Helme, who has two albums worth of solo material written and is poised to sign a new record deal, revealed that he has still not healed the rift with Seahorses guitarist and founder Squire, which led to the band split in February 1999.
Speaking exclusively to nme.com, Helme said: "I’ve been listening to Jackson Browne and early Van Morrison a lot, so there's no muso wanking like on Seahorses. "I’ve got enough for two albums at the minute. It’s confessional stuff."
Helme, still unsigned, also explained that solo material hadn't appeared yet because of management problems following The Seahorses‘ demise. "It's tough when your career's in someone else's hands," he said. "But that's sorted now. I'm not desperately seeking a new deal, but I've been talking to a few people who seem to like what they've heard." Helme - who plays his biggest solo date so far in his home-town of York at the Theatre Royal on May 29 as part of the BBC Music Live series of events - claimed he hadn't spoken to Seahorses founder and ex-Stone Roses guitarist John Squire in over 14 months and said the band split had been on the cards for some time.
He admitted, "There was a personality clash during rehearsals. When he came up with new stuff [for the follow-up to 1997's 'Do It Yourself'] I didn't like his lyrics or tunes. I could have gone with it and made quite a lot of money, but I wasn't interested."
And John Fletcher, father of Stuart Fletcher (bassist in The Seahorses) responded with this (on The Seahorses mailing list): "I think its a shame for Chris to slag off John Squire in the music press, who probably fell over themselves to print it - not a lot of difference between them and the gutter tabloids. Chris owes JS a lot - regardless of the fact that he wasn't keen on John's lyrics or tunes. However, it was these very things that turned Chris into a household (?) name, and to broadcast their differences just smacks of sour grapes.
"My personal opinion, is that Chris should have recorded the second album, having come so far with it, and then cited musical differences and left the band gracefully, pocketing some money to finance a solo project. He would have kept more fans that way, who would have supported both him AND Squire! I don't care what he says - the Horses were a great band, and to give the impression that he hated every minute does him no credit at all."

Chris Helme - 29 May 2000 - Theatre Royal, York
Notes: Chris's homecoming show. As part of The BBC Music Live events.

16 November 2000 - Mani's 38th birthday
24 November 2000 - John Squire's 38th birthday

Reluctance
John Squire - Guitar
Mark Heaney - Drums
Simon Jones - Bass Guitar
Duncan Baxter - Vocals

Reluctance - 2000/2001 - Backridge Farm Sessions
What You Are Waiting For
Notes: John Squire formed this band after the demise of the Seahorses. Seahorses drummer Mark Heaney kept playing for Squire during this short lived project. The Verve had split up and from the Wigan based band came Simon Jones, who played bass for this project and would later tour with John Squire too.
Duncan Baxter also sang in the project 'The Shining' too.

Chris Helme Band
Chris Helme - Vocals & Guitar
Andy Knights -

Chris Helme - The Seahorses * 08 September 2001 Saturday - The Roadmender, Lady's Lane, Northampton, NN1 3AH * Doors Open: 19:30 * Ticket Price: £7.00 * Supporting: The Supernaturals
Notes: Acoustic Show from The Seahorses singer. Supporting The Supernaturals.

2002

M - January 2002 - Chris Helme appears in Designer Magazine

Andy Watts - Vocals & Guitar
Paul - Guitar
Mozer - 30 March 2002 Saturday - Fleece, Bristol * Supporting: The Complete Stone Roses
Believe
Notes: Former Seahorses drummer Andy's band open the show.

Mozer - November 2002 - Mozer Demo CD
Urnotknown / Believe / Smother / Homefromhome
Notes:
2002 - I Am Without Shoes (thestoneroses.net, Stone Roses fan website) Review by Will Odell: Track by track... 1. Urnotknown - A similar vibe to This Is The One by the Roses, in that it starts quietly and stays that way for a while, then an anthemic, repeating loud section comes in. The loud bit certainly took me by surprise - I had the volume control up a bit loud. Very nice, especially the middle section. 2. Believe - Great track, definitely the most rousing on the CD. Great middle eight where they go all delicate then crank it up again. Quite US-sounding musically, presumably this is done purposely. The sounds are perfect - there's plenty going on to keep you interested, but not so much that it's cluttered, which is worse than keeping it too simple in my opinion. A cracker. 3. Smother - Probably my favourite. Great chorus which flows really well from the verse. Something about it sounds quite 1980s - if it had different production it wouldn't sound out of place on Radio 2. Parts of it sound a bit like The Police, I think.Anyway, a superb track, great ambience. 4. Homefromhome - Parts of this one and 'Smother' sound quite similar, esp. some of the vocals and guitar sounds. Has quite a haunting quality. Again, good ambience around it, really atmospheric music. Very Badly Drawn Boy-esque. Overall, I think it's a gem of an EP. It'll certainly be in my player for a while. Mozer fuse lovely old-fashioned melodies with some crisp, modern sounds that bring it all up to date, and it works very well. They shouldn't allow a producer to mess the stuff they've got around when they get the recording contract either - I really like what they've got already. Bass is solid but not flabby, drums are allowed to breathe (unlike a lot of guitar-based bands) and vocals and guitars and the songs generally are arranged to perfection. A great start. Will Odell
From March 2002 - I Am Without Shoes (thestoneroses.net) Interview with Andy Watts: IAWS: So who writes the lyrics in Mozer, and how do the others feel about that...? AW: I write 90% of the lyrics/tunes, and I'm the lead singer. But a democracy exists. If Paul's (guitarist) written something, he's fairly happy about moving it around. We've got a lot in common in terms of our backgrounds and musical tastes anyway, so there's a common bond there. We've started writing together much more. A tune we co-wrote called 'Believe' is getting heavy airplay in the States, which is great....IAWS: You and Reni have both moved on to singing and playing guitar from the drums after working with John Squire! Why in your case did this happen? AW: Well, I'm a better guitarist than a drummer, and I always intended to form a band. I was classically trained on the guitar, I've been playing since I was six. It was always a joke with the road crew that I was more proficient than John technically, as I was classically trained. But John was fucking mindblowingly quick in terms of speed and finesse. IAWS: Your new band, Mozer, what are your influences, and what are your hopes for the band? It is 'Mo-zer', isn't it, it's not pronounced 'Mozzer'? AW: Yeah, it's 'Mo-zer'. I'm like John, I'm a cycling fan, and I found an old Italian bike called Mozer, so the name came from that. But yeah, it's not 'Mozzer' - I fucking hate that! That's how XFM introduced us. If it was Mozzer it'd have two 'z's! Get it right! It's not brain surgery eh? And we're not, I repeat, not, a Morrissey tribute band...!...IAWS: Time Out magazine compared you to the early Stone Roses - can you see the comparisons? AW: Musically, no. I think we're a much heavier proposition. It's just lazy journalism. That's unfair actually, it's just about giving people a reference point. We're ultimately a guitar band but we're utilising technology. I think Ian Brown's last three LPs have been great. But we're a more corpulent, bloated outfit! In terms of attitude and vibe, yeah, maybe. I don't know much about the early Roses, but I used to hit the floor to Fools Gold when I was rinsed. Top tune.

2002 - The Yards
Chris Helme - Vocals & Guitar
Stuart Fletcher - Bass
John Miller - Drums
Chris Farrell - Guitar
Notes: Former Seahorses members form a new band. John Miller played drums for St. Etienne. Chris Farrell would later play guitar for Parade who in turn became Halo Blind, as would Stuart Fletcher & Andy Knights.
From Stuart Fletcher interview by Matt Mead published 11 February 2019: Did you have any songs that you offered to the band at the time? I wrote the first track on the album I Want You To Know but it wasn’t really my strong point at the time. I’m very good at arranging or finishing other people’s songs or providing riffs which people write songs around. Probably why a lot of bass players become decent producers. There was a song I wrote with a tapping bass line which John really wanted to use but we never got the chance to do anything with it. It was eventually called Crime and Chris Helme ended up finishing it off when we formed The Yards in 2002...The drummer John Miller ended up playing in The Yards with me and Chris Helme and the guitarist on the tour James was playing for Kylie Minogue so we got to go to her shows too.
We didn’t do too badly, having a song on Hollyoaks and supporting Arthur Lee’s Love (below) and Brian Jonestown Massacre to name a few. We had some decent festival appearances – Kendal Calling, Canterbury Fayre and some licensing deals in the UK and Japan. In between recording and touring I was forced to get a “proper job” just to pay my mortgage as most musicians have to these days. I used to use up all my holiday time pretty quickly with gigs and always ended up having to pay for additional days off for recording sessions. I played with Rick Witter in The Dukes for an album and tour while Shed Seven were deciding if they were continuing or folding and did various other recording and live projects.

The Yards - 07 May 2005 - 6 Music Session, BBC Radio 6, London
Bootleg: FM - CD-R

The Yards - 23 September 2005 - BBC Radio Session, London
Notes: Interview and Session
Bootleg: FM - CD-R
Bootleg: Yards, Seahorses & Fireflies () CD-R

Chris Helme - 11 September 2009 - GRV, Edinburgh * Support Act(s): Kerrie Lynch
Notes: Solo Acoustic.
From 14 September 2009 music-news.com - The Seahorses stormed the UK back in the nineties as one of the most influential Britpop bands in a post-Stone Roses genre. Since the split of The Seahorses in 1999, lead singer Chris Helme has joined new group The Yards and also made a name for himself as a solo artist. Tonight Helme takes to the stage of Edinburgh’s GRV with just an acoustic guitar and his voice to thrill the unexpectedly sparse audience. Supporting Chris Helme this evening is beautiful lady and powerful-voiced local Kerrie Lynch. Kerrie’s voice is extremely loud and elegant, a fantastic round-up of all that is good about acoustic performances. Her guitar is simple, yet boldly effective when teamed with graceful lyrics. There are no musical complications to Kerrie’s act, just sweet music, cute lyrics and a tremendous vocal performance.
Chris Helme, voice of popular nineties act The Seahorses, takes to the stage with one stunning guitar and one stunning voice. Chris can hit the high notes with perfect precision, bewildering his audience who were expecting simply a past reflection of The Seahorses music. Chris’s vocals are simply divine, and playing in such a small hall means the sheer force of his sound is allowed time to cascade over the audience and drip down the walls.
Chris Helme talks about, or debates, whether he should sing songs from his days in The Seahorses, or if he should simply perform solo material. “At first I didn’t want to, I wanted to put the band behind me, but now I quite enjoy performing them”. Not only in the way he talks, but the angry pain lacing his voice as he sings denotes a slight sadness, a thick tension or regret that his band is a past exploration.
There is absolutely no chance The Seahorses will ever get together again, but with that voice, personality and stage presence, Chris Helme’s musical days are not yet numbered. Chris Helme’s solo work sounds promising and his new band The Yards are surely set for big things with Helme as their front man.

Chris Helme - 28 January 2011 - Baileys, Grimsby * Supprting: Tom Hingley And The Lovers
Notes: Tom Hingley And The Lovers, former Inspiral Carpets singers new band.

Chris Helme - 2012 - The Rookery
From Stuart Fletcher interview by Matt Mead published 11 February 2019: We recorded two of Chris Helme’s solo albums – The Rookery (which I think Louder Than War reviewed favourably at the time) and his new one as yet untitled. Chris is currently mixing it hopefully for a release this year. I also have a couple of gigs coming up with him towards the end of this year.

Chris Helme - 09 November 2012 Friday - The Voodoo Rooms, Edinburgh
(Incomplete set) Hello / You Can Talk To Me / Blindeye / Darkest Days / Summer Girl / Set In Stone
encore: Blinded By The Sun / Love Is The Law
Notes: Set In Stone was dedicated to Chris's wife, who was watching at the side of the stage.
From louderthanwar.com, Richard Payne: November 12, 2012: Chris Helme The Voodoo Rooms, Edinburgh Friday 9th November, Words:
For a man that once played to sell-out arenas all over the world, the surroundings of the Voodoo Rooms in Edinburgh’s East End could be said to be claustrophobic and an almighty comedown for ex-Seahorses frontman, Chris Helme. Yet, free from the pressure of being a famous rock star, thrust into the limelight without having earned that status, Helme is a man comfortable in his own skin. The familiar sounds of ‘Hello’ and ‘You Can Talk To Me’, songs that helped make him a household name at the height of the Seahorses fame are how he chose to start his set. ‘The Seahorses were around a long time ago and I dread to think how long it actually is, but weirdly, I’m remembered for doing that one album…’ It’s like looking through a photo album when I play them these days.‘ he told the enthusiastic crowd and their response was to welcome them like long-lost relatives.
However, Helme wasn’t in Auld Reekie for a nostalgic look back at his time on top of the Indie world and sharing a stage with John Squire, he was in town plugging his new album ‘The Rookery’, (LTW review) a fantastic, mellow LP filled with beautiful indie/folk tunes.
This is Helme stripped bare and his heartfelt, soulful tunes take on new meaning when performed without the backing of a band. Those vulnerable melodies highlight Helme’s growth as a songwriter and showcase his undoubted talent for captivating his audience.
Right from the start of his set it was clear he had the heart of those standing before him. Yet, before he struck the first chord of the first song he handled the intrusive presence of a front row heckler as only a seasoned professional could and with the crowd on his side he set about indulging in his first love – the music. New tracks such as ‘Blindeye’, ‘Darkest Days’ And ‘Summer Girl’ sound as though you’ve always known them and they were somehow a reflection of your own thoughts and feelings. Meanwhile, ‘Set In Stone’, dedicated to his wife standing just off stage, highlighted the raw emotion of Helme’s writing and the uncertainty of a man who doesn’t believe himself to be worthy of the love from those around him. The warmth in the venue tonight however would have him feeling ten foot tall, a colossal wave of adoration that would appear entirely reciprocated by the Yorkshire artist.
The encore would see Helme once more return to his past and the crowd-pleasing hits from his Seahorses days, yet, it’s unlikely that ‘Blinded By The Sun’ or ‘Love Is The Law’ have ever sounded as soulful and uplifting as they have done this evening. For a man said to have been plucked from obscurity by Squire after a busking session in York, Helme’s time in the spotlight is far from over and it won’t be long before he is back playing packed arenas having done the hard work and earned the right to be back there.

Chris Helme Band
Chris Helme
Sam Forrest
Chris Helme - 09 February 2013 - The Bodega, Nottingham
(Incomplete) The Spindle and the Cauldron / Long Way Round / Daddies Farm / Blind Eye / Summer Girl / Anyone Who Knows What Love Is (Will Understand) (Irma Thomas cover) (Acoustic) / At Last (Etta James cover) (Acoustic) /
Notes: Band included Sam Forrest from Nine Black Alps. The band play some songs from The Yards too. The acoustic covers are played by Chris solo.
From 10 February 2013 louderthanwar.com, Features Editor Sarah Lay reviews: Chris Helme: Nottingham – live review. His 2012 album of Americana and folk-tinged indie was one of our favourites (see the LTW albums of the year list here) but how will it sound played live with a full band (including Nine Black Alps‘ Sam Forrest) rather than his more usual solo acoustic? I’m going to be upfront about this; I like Chris Helme. As a songwriter his album The Rookery was one of my 2012 musical highlights and he could sing me his shopping list, just as long as he sings.
But this leaves tonight precarious, a much wanted gig but with the potential to disappoint given the high expectations I’ve set. I’m pretty sure most of today’s warm glow is down to the fact not only did it meet those expectations but actually exceeded them in a mellow but wonderfully melodic way.
The thrill of this set is that songs from the record which need a full band to breathe life into them, do get an airing. For me I’ve been waiting since my first spin of The Rookery to hear The Spindle and the Cauldron and tonight that wait is over. This song is full of supernatural seduction, a vocal full of wanting, a lyric full of resignation to giving in to an unwise but unavoidable liaison. Live it physically hits. Four men meticulous yet mellow on the stage weave this spell around us. There is a sense of swampy Americana, a sultry voodoo delivered in song. For as long as it lasts this song owns me, I am fallen, the sound a beautiful purple haze engulfing me, leaving behind a smokey soul. The rest of the set is no less special. A sea mist of sound full of psiren’s song, calling you on, soaking through to your very bones, so darkly enticing before giving way to a rolling rip tide of rhythms.
The full band sound is in front of you on the stage but also around you, inside you. It is pleasantly unrelenting in it’s embrace, warm and strong but losing none of the intricacies of the record.
We get the good stuff – Long Way Round, Daddies Farm, Blind Eye and Summer Girl (with lovely relaxed banter going from stage to audience as Sam Forrest pulls up sharp when Chris muddles the lines).
Then there is a look back, not unusual in Chris’ repertoire but tonight it is to The Yards, and no further. These older songs come closer in style to his more recent solo exploits tonight and are the better for it, fitting perfectly with the set and showing off some precision musicianship on the stage.
But, this is a short set, the press for live music to make way for a club night, but there are songs, it seems, that Chris must sing tonight regardless of limited time. He is left alone on the stage stage as he gives us two covers; Irma Thomas’s Anyone Who Knows What Love Is (Will Understand) and At Last by Etta James.
These classics are full of heartbreak and the swell of soul; Chris Helme more than does them justice tonight. Head bent low over his guitar, the audience quietly (well mostly, we know respect at gigs is hard for some these days) drawn in to the rasp of fingers sliding over strings and the edge of a voice which feels around, as much as sings, these words. Yes, it’s quite some voice that Helme has. It’s matured to be more suited to the swampy blues and soaring pastoral of his songwriting. The experience of years evident in the tone. The sibling songs of The Rookery, interspersed with their The Yards ancestors, are all I hoped they would be; more, maybe. These songs sound just as good stripped back and solo or with the swell of company, as they are tonight. That’s a powerful thing but then their maker is a man hitting his songwriting stride, confidence bolstered by a band, modesty and humour making the delivery more appealing. So there is a warm glow of satisfaction today but also the realisation I’m still wanting, although I’m not entirely clear what for. Certainly a longer set last night would have been welcomed but beyond that is it more chances to hear this full band realisation of familiar songs or is it a new album, new loves? It’s a sweet quandary to ponder, indeed.

Chris Helme - 20 March 2015 Friday - Hairy Dog, Derby * Support Act(s): Liam Walker (Acoustic), The Panama Scots
(Incomplete set) ? (cover) Hello / You Can Talk to Me / Blindeye / Ooh La La (The Faces cover) Yellow Lights / Lorelei / Summer Girl / Pleased / Blinded By The Sun
Notes: The Panama Scots are first to play. Chris previews some new material from the upcoming LP and dedicates The Faces cover to his dad. Before Blinded By The Sun Chris jokes about the solar eclipse.
From 24 March 2015 louderthanwar.com, Features Editor Sarah Lay reviews: Chris Helme: Derby – live review - With a new solo album on the horizon Chris Helme is out on the road again starting to play these new tracks as well as those from his 2012 debut The Rookery and ’90’s classics from The Seahorses .
For a venue best known locally as the home of punk and metal Derby’s Hairy Dog has a beautifully mellow vibe for tonight’s acoustic show. The Friday night crowd may be well up for singing along to some ’90’s indie classics but they’re also chilled out enough to appreciate some quieter tunes from all three artists on the bill.
The Panama Scots open up tonight, only the second gig for this band and a pared back sound to play acoustically. With a strong musical heritage these new songs may still be rough around the edges but their charm shines through.
They’re followed by Liam Walker, tonight performing a solo set. Louder Than War tipped Liam as one of our artists to watch in this year’s list and we’re no less excited to hear more from him now than we were those few months back. This evening he plays a set of gentle, Americana-infused folk that practically glows with warmth.
And then Chris Helme takes to the stage. There is an energy that resonates through Helme’s music and performance, whether it is the gently-picked sway of tracks from The Rookery, an introspective cover of The Faces or re-working Seahorses classics to delight the crowd.
Warming up with a cover we then get a subdued, brooding start with the dark but pastoral Blindeye. There is a rise and fall to this song, a flourish of picking, a swell of vocal that draws the listener closer.
Tonight there is a catch and growl to Helme’s voice. Far from diminishing the performance it only more firmly underlines the soul-stirring raw emotion of the songs. This is only heightened as he talks openly and honestly about his personal life and dedicates a cover of The Faces’ Ooh La La to his dad, encouraging the audience to sing-a-long. Chris Helme performing We’re also treated to some new ones, a tantalising glimpse an even darker, heavier, Blues-infused sound. Whether this is typical of the next album time will tell but this is a promising teaser that what emerged as psych-tinged folk on The Rookery has been ramped up and spun out further on this next record.
New are joined by older solo tracks as we are treated to Yellow Lights and Lorelei from 2008 album Ashes, and Summer Girl and Pleased from The Rookery. The latter of these also benefits from that growl in the voice, with the lyric taking on a menacing but intoxicating air. There are Seahorses songs of course too. Tonight we get Hello, You Can Talk to Me and Blinded By The Sun; a monkey clawing harder at Chris’ back today due to an outbreak of mass mild humour around the solar eclipse. Many in the crowd know these songs the best and undoubtedly long for the nostalgia they bring but they don’t get recitals by rote, they get something really rather special.
In their infancy, at the tail end of Britpop, these songs were smoothed over, the imperfections retouched until we were dazzled by their surface. Swagger was the order of the day back then so we were satisfied. These were, after all, good songs in spite of the distracting sideshow of legend vs underdog stories surrounding the band gifting them to us. But now, nearing two decades on, that surface is cracked and the gloss has crumbled away leaving us in no doubt that these songs are more beautiful stripped down than they ever were dressed up; that the very bones of them are what we’ve desired these many a long year. Delivered tonight with a voice so full of their essence it is on the verge of breaking, and a crowd full of love for singer and song, it is companionship rather than nostalgia which pervades. This then is an intimate gig show where the light-hearted between song patter is contrast for the brooding melancholia, the yearn for love possible and past. Here is a songwriting talent fuelled by a genuine love of music, delivered by a voice that can be kind or cruel; a ravaged charm. Those who have overlooked Helme have made an unfortunate loss, missing out on an enduring talent, masterfully maturing into alluring blues-folk from his indie heritage. You can find out more on Chris Helme’s website, or follow him on Twitter or Facebook.

Chris Helme - 26 March 2015 - Carsons, Middleton
Chris Helme - 27 March 2015 - Canada Water Culture Space, London
Chris Helme - 28 March 2015 - Lichfield Arts Centre, Lichfield
Chris Helme - 08 April 2015 - Harpenden Public Halls, Harpenden
Chris Helme - 18 April 2015 - Malton Folk Festival, Malton
Chris Helme - 29 May 2015 - Krafty Brew Brewery, Edinburgh
Chris Helme - 30 May 2015 - XFEST, Sanquhar
Chris Helme - 06 June 2015 - Mosborough Music Festival, Sheffield
Chris Helme - 20 June 2015 - Buryfields Festival, Chesham
Chris Helme - 11 July 2015 - Corbridge Festival, Corbridge.

Chris Helme - 17 July 2015 - The Fibbers, York * Supporting: Halo Blind
Notes: Chris supports Halo Blind, who feature ex-The Yards members.

11 February 2019 - Stuart Fletcher: ex-Seahorses member speaks to Louder Than War – interview By Matt Mead
Notes: See Media for the article.

Chris Helme - 14 December - Marrs Bar, Worcester, Worcestershire
Ashes / Last High and Morning Sun / Blinded By The Sun
Notes: Solo Unplugged set. ''He plays occasional pub gigs with The Yards and runs his own acoustic night up North.''

2019 - Chris Helme - 'New LP'
Nots:
From Stuart Fletcher interview by Matt Mead published 11 February 2019: We recorded two of Chris Helme’s solo albums – The Rookery (which I think Louder Than War reviewed favourably at the time) and his new one as yet untitled. Chris is currently mixing it hopefully for a release this year.

Chris Helme - 21 September 2019 Saturday - Star Shaped Festival (Summer Festival Of Britpop), Forum, Kentish Town, London * Line Up: Cast, Dodgy (playing 'Homegrown' LP in full), Space, Geneva, Salad, Mark Morriss (The Bluetones), Chris Helme (The Seahorses)
Notes: Acoustic Set. Billed as 'Chris Helme (The Seahorses)'

Chris Helme - 28 November 2019 - The Rose & Monkey Hotel, 31 Swan Street, Manchester, M45JZ * Support Act(s): Mike Seal (The Be Positives), Rachel Sermanni
Notes: Acoustic Set. Billed as 'Chris Helme (ex-The Seahorses)'

Chris Helme - 24 November 2023 Friday - The Chester Tavern, Kidderminster
Chris Helme - 16 December 2023 Saturday - The Ridgemont Pavilion, Tunbridge Wells

2024
Chris Helme - 05 January 2024 - The Hug & Pint, Glasgow

Chris Helme - 08 March 2024 Friday - Academy, Sheffield * Supporting: Dodgy
Notes: Dodgy playing Free Peace Sweet in full plus Greatest Hits Set.
Chris Helme - 09 March 2024 Saturday - Academy, Liverpool * Supporting: Dodgy
Notes: Dodgy playing Free Peace Sweet in full plus Greatest Hits Set.
Chris Helme - 22 March 2024 Friday - Academy, Leicester * Supporting: Dodgy
Notes: Dodgy playing Free Peace Sweet in full plus Greatest Hits Set.
Chris Helme - 23 March 2024 Saturday - Academy, Birmingham * Supporting: Dodgy
Notes: Dodgy playing Free Peace Sweet in full plus Greatest Hits Set.

Chris Helme - 05 April 2024 Friday - Academy, Islington, London * Supporting: Dodgy
Notes: Dodgy playing Free Peace Sweet in full plus Greatest Hits Set.
Chris Helme - 06 April 2024 Saturday - Waterfront, Norwich * Supporting: Dodgy
Notes: Dodgy playing Free Peace Sweet in full plus Greatest Hits Set.

Chris Helme - 12 April 2024 - Arts Centre, Pontardawe

Chris Helme - 05-07 July 2024 - The Brit Fest Cheshire, Ashley Hall Showground, Altrincham, Cheshire * Ticket Price: £65 (Day Tickets) / £ Camping *
Notes: Hosted by Jenny Powell & Mike Toolan. Line Up included The Bluetones, Heather Small, Cast, Chris Helme, DJ Mike Joyce (The Smiths drummer), Owen Paul, Sonia, The South, The Real Thing, T'Pau, The Christians, Reef, Dodgy, Toploader, Starsailor, The Feeling, Kim Wilde, Scouting For Girls, Fleur East, Hot Chocolate, Nik Kershaw and loads more