1960 - Alan McGee is born in East Kilbride
22 June 1962 - Robert Bernard Andrew "Bobby" Gillespie is born
Notes: Son of Robert Gillespie, a proud trade union activist and anti-racist campaigner and Wilma, former landlady of a pub in Glasgow. Robert Senior was a Marxist trade unionist, a former Sogat [print union] official. Bobby has a younger brother Graham and a sister too.
From NME (New Musical Express) Bobby said: "My earliest memory is a dream I had when I was little, living in a tenement in Glasgow. I walked up the side of the building, and over the roof, then down the other side of the building. So my first memory is also the first dream I can ever remember having, which is a bit strange."
1972 - The Gillespie family are living in Springburn.
Notes: Full of high-rise flats in Glasgow's tenements. Gillespie’s family lived in one room, sharing a bathroom with other families, later moving to a “room and kitchen” in the same tenement, with the then-family of four sharing a bedroom.
From 06 March 2016 Sunday 17:26 - The Independent.co.uk (independent.co.uk), Kevin EG Perry Interview:...Surprisingly for someone whose youth was marked by such prodigious drug use, he’s never even been a smoker. “I think when I was about eight or something I tried. I picked one up in the street and it was covered in saliva and made me feel so sick,” he laughs. “It’s funny. Now I know loads of people who are trying to give up. They’re getting to that age.”
13 March 2016 Sunday 11.00 GMT The Observer, Guardian, Sean O'Hagan Interview: There was music in the air when I was a kid. My dad ran a folk club [in Glasgow] in the 60s and booked people like Gerry Rafferty and Billy Connolly. He taped the folk singers who played there and we’d listen to these crackly recordings. My dad loved Ray Charles, and he had his greatest hits album on the Stateside label – Busted, Take these Chains from My Heart, The Cincinatti Kid. Classic songs. My mum loved the Supremes and Elvis. I remember staring at the picture sleeve of Suspicious Minds – just the beauty of his face. My brother and me used to listen to A Boy Named Sue by Johnny Cash and laugh at the lyrics, and then we’d play the B-side, San Quentin, and sing along – “San Quentin may you rot and burn in hell”. That was definitely a formative influence.
1973 - The Gillespie family move to Mount Florida, Cathcart, Glasgow
Notes: Bobby lives close to Hampden Park football ground and becomes a Glasgow Celtic fan.
Decemember 2021 - Classic Rock Magazine - The Soundtrack Of My Life - 09 November 2021: Interview by Ian Fortnam: THE FIRST MUSIC I REMEMBER HEARING - My parents’ records. My dad used to play Ray Charles’s Greatest Hits Volume 2, and my mum Hank Williams’ Moanin’ The Blues. They also had The Supremes’ Greatest Hits and Bob Dylan’s Greatest Hits. So all those plus pop radio: The Move, The Troggs, the 1910 Fruitgum Company. It all comes out in Primal Scream at various points. When you’re young you take this stuff on board as if by osmosis.
197x - Bobby buys his first single Hell Raiser by Sweet
13 March 2016 Sunday 11.00 GMT The Observer, Guardian, Sean O'Hagan Interview: I was a child of Top 40 pop radio – Sweet, Slade, Bolan, Bowie, Mott the Hoople. Great glam rock. The first single I bought was Hell Raiser by Sweet.
12 January 2016 Tuesday 07.00 GMT The Observer, Guardian My favourite Bowie song article: My favourite Bowie song – by Florence, Marianne Faithfull, Julien Temple, Noel Fielding and more. We asked musicians, artists, film-makers and more to tell us about the Bowie song that means the most to them.
Bobby Gillespie (Primal Scream): The Jean Genie. I must have been 11 when I first heard The Jean Genie on the radio, when I was getting ready to go to school, and I’ve loved it ever since. I was just listening to it five minutes ago, stomping around the house, and that’s what it is: a classic rock’n’roll record, a glam stomp anthem. DJ with it and anyone my age right down to teenagers will dance to it, if they love rock’n’roll. It’s a really sexy record, and Bowie isn’t always sexy – there’s a distance, a lot of the time. But he wrote and recorded it when he was touring Ziggy Stardust in America and I think it captures the feeling of a rock’n’roll band making it there for the first time. It has the same stardom-coming-true hysteria as Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby, Standing in the Shadows? by the Rolling Stones. It’s cocky, it has that swagger. I actually think Aladdin Sane, the album it appeared on, is better than Ziggy. It’s rawer, looser. It’s more of an American record, whereas Ziggy is a British album, and it can feel a bit studied. Compare The Jean Genie to Suffragette City and hear the difference. The bass player in the band apparently told Bowie when they were on tour that it was too much of a ripoff of the Yardbirds’ I’m a Man, and of course he was right! But it doesn’t matter. And as a kid, I didn’t know that it might be about Jean Genet, or it might be about Iggy Pop or an Iggy character, as Bowie said. But that’s what makes it brilliant too, it’s rock’n’roll as the occult – he’s passing on that knowledge and passing it on to someone still at primary school! You understand what he means, you pick up a certain energy. You feel more excited. You feel stranger. I was in the classroom and another boy came over with a copy of Aladdin Sane, and he opened up the gatefold sleeve and read me the lyrics to Time: “Time, he flexes like a whore / Falls wanking to the floor / His trick is you and me, boy.” We were like: “Woah! .... Woah ....”
1973 - Bobby Gillespie meets Robert "Throb" Young & Alan McGee at King's Park Secondary School, Glasgow
Notes: Bobby Gillespie moved to Mount Florida in southeastern Glasgow, where he attended King's Park Secondary School, where he first met Robert Young. In later years Bobby would meet Jim Beattie at school too.
Bobby Gillespie said: "It was weird because I was in good classes for English, Art and History, but I was in remedial classes for Maths and Science, anything like that. In remedial, there's no teacher. They put you in a room and throw the key away."
Alan McGee said: “Robert was this little kid who loved fighting,” “He was the kind of kid you had to watch, ’cause even though he was small he was really bolshie.”
30 October 1976 - Alan took Bobby to see Thin Lizzy at The Apollo, Glasgow
Notes: Schoolfriend Alan McGee, took Bobby to his first gig.
1977 - Bobby goes to see The Clash - Apollo, Glasgow * Support: Richard Hell
13 March 2016 Sunday 11.00 GMT The Observer, Guardian, Sean O'Hagan Interview: Punk was year zero for me. My brother and I listened to the John Peel radio show because we heard he was going to play God Save the Queen by the Sex Pistols. No one else would play it, and he did. I’d read about them and sensed something was going on but that was the epiphany. I went to see the Clash play with Richard Hell at the Glasgow Apollo, and that was another one. I was possessed and I couldn’t express what it meant to anyone who understood until Alan McGee [Creation Records boss] came along. It seemed like we were on a mission from that moment.
1978 - Alan McGee & Bobby join The Drains
Notes: Heavily influenced by punk rock, Alan & Bobby join local punk band, The Drains. The Drains' guitarist was a 15-year-old Andrew Colin Innes. The band changed their name to Captain Scarlet And The Mysterons but they split shortly after.
From Sounds Magazine, 1990 Bobby Gillespie said: "Punk music gave me the courage to be myself and I met Alan through that. I'd always thought that there must be people who think like me and when I heard 'God Save The Queen' I thought, ‘great! there's somebody else who hates The Queen as much as I do'. It's simple, but that's the power of rock 'n' roll!"
18 May 2008 Sunday 11.20 BST The Observer, Guardian, Will Hodgkinson:
Soundtrack of my life: Bobby Gillespie. The Primal Scream star tells Will Hodgkinson about the respect he has for Johnny Rotten and why he mobbed Link Wray. The record that made me form a band: Never Mind the Bollocks, The Sex Pistols (1977). It was Johnny Rotten who made me want to be in a band. Rotten was opinionated, intelligent, working class... he said the things I felt. You would look at adults and think, 'They're all acting.' Rotten was ripping through the cinema screen of a fake reality. It sounds pretentious, I know, but his version of reality made sense to me. He had a poetic anger. The first time I saw Jamie Reid's Sex Pistols poster of the Queen with her eyes ripped out, I thought, 'My God, somebody hates those bastards as much as I do.' I was transfixed.
1978 - Bobby left school with three ‘O’ Levels and begins work at printing factory.
Notes: Alan, trainee electrician, applied to work with British Rail and got the job.
1979 - Alan McGee & Andrew Colin Innes hang out with H20 & Newspeak.
1979 - Bobby Gillespie roadies for Altered Images
Notes: Bobby produced the bands first gig poster.
From The Guardian Sunday 23 April 2006 15.06 BST article by James Brown:
Gillespie was also hanging out with Altered Images, one of Scotland's best-loved pop groups. 'I was at school with them and their manager Gerry McElhone, who is now our manager. He used to drive me home from band practises and play me Johnny Thunders's solo album [ So Alone ], African Dub Almighty Chapter 3 by Joe Gibbs, the Velvet Underground's "What Goes On".'
'Bobby was probably our first fan,' McElhone remembers. 'He did the poster for the first Altered Images gig. He even played with us one time when the drummer disappeared in Middlesbrough. A horrible night with skinheads and punks fighting and spitting.'
Altered Images - Middlesbrough - Bobby Gillespie plays drums for the band
Notes: The band's drummer was nowhere to be found so Bobby stepped in and played drums for the night. The show was a disaster and ended with skinheads and punks fighting and spitting.
1979 - Bobby Gillespie & Jim Navajo Beattie start writing and form an experimental recording project.
Notes: They recorded "elemental noise tapes", in which Gillespie would bang two dustbin lids together and Beattie played fuzz-guitar. They covered The Velvet Underground and The Byrds songs before starting to write their own, based on Jah Wobble and Peter Hook basslines. Gillespie later said that the band "didn't really exist, but we did it every night for something to do."
1980 - Alan, Andrew form The Laughing Apple
Notes: Alan on bass, Andrew on guitar, Ken Popple with Mark Jardim on drums.
They released one single under their own label, Essential Records. They signed to Rough Trade Records and released three singles released on Autonomy Record label. Autonomy Records was set up, by Alan, with sponsorship money from Govan CND. Bobby Gillespie designed the sleeves for the singles.
July 1980 - Andrew and Alan move to London while Bobby stayed in Glasgow.
Notes: Andrew and Newspeak singer Jack Reilly convince Alan to move to Tooting Bec, London. Jack Reilly would leave London and Newspeak split. Alan stayed in London and continued his employment with British Rail. Andrew Innes would also form and join Biff Bang Pow! & Revolving Paint Dream whilst in London.
1981 - Primal Scream are formed.
Notes: They named themselves Primal Scream, a term for a type of cry heard in primal therapy. 'Primal Scream' was a term coined in Dr. Arthur Janov's famed book on psychotherapy treatment, radical French psychiatrist Félix Guattari also wrote a book with the same title.
Bobby said: "When Primal Scream started, all Jim and I used to do was make tapes of noise, then we progressed to writing tunes around bass riffs, and then we started writing pop songs."
From The Independent (independent.co.uk) 07 November 2003 01:00 Friday by Steve Jelbert: Did Gillespie ever imagine they would last so long?
"I never thought that far ahead really. While it was happening, I just tried to enjoy it," he says now. Wasn't it a stroke of luck that no other band had used the name before, when even Tears for Fears took their name from Arthur Janov, inventor of primal-scream therapy? "Yeah, it's amazing, isn't it," he laughs. "In 1981, I thought to myself: if I ever form a band, I'm calling it Primal Scream."
1981 - Andrew Colin Innes is diagnosed with hepatitis and returns to Glasgow
1981 - Alan McGee is involved in a crash with the tour van, on his way to Scotland
1981 - Bungalow Bar, Paisley
Sixteen (Buzzcocks cover)
Notes: Bobby on guitar and vocals, Jim on bass and a drum machine.
Decemember 2021 - Classic Rock Magazine - The Soundtrack Of My Life - 09 November 2021: Interview by Ian Fortnam: THE FIRST SONG I PERFORMED LIVE - Sixteen by The Buzzcocks at the Bungalow Bar, Paisley in 1981. Jim Beattie and myself played one song. We’d a drum machine, Jim played bass and I played guitar. And there was no one there. Literally.
1981 - Alan McGee & Jerry Thackray start rock fanzine Communication Blur
Notes: Bobby Gillespie's artwork is printed in the fanzine.
1981 - Bobby hangs with The Wake
Notes: Factory Records band. The Wake were founded in 1981 by ex-Altered Image member Gerard "Caesar" McInulty, Steve Allen on drums, Joe Donnelly on bass. Bobby joined briefly on bass and then Steven's sister, Carolyn Allen joined on keyboards.
The Wake - 11 October 1981 - Cafe Vaudeville, Glasgow, Scotland
Move With the Times / Cold Home / Communion / No More Green Space / Patrol / Give Up / Careering (Public Image Cover)
Notes: Unconfirmed if Bobby has joined them at this point.
Bootleg: Cassette
1982 - Alan hosts The Communication Club
Notes: The club sadly proved too expensive, forcing him to close down after little more than two months.
Alan McGee said: "I started a club" he recalls, "I didn't do it to make money, I just didn't know anyone in London at the time, and I thought I'd meet people if I started putting on bands I liked."
1982 - Bungalow Bar, Paisley * Supporting: The Laughing Apple
Notes: Bobby said: "The first ever Primal Scream gig was at the Bungalow Bar in Paisley, we supported The Laughing Apple. Only one song in the set was ours, and I remember it was just total noise. That wasn't a real gig, it was a joke. There wasn't any shape to it."
From The Dawn Of Creation In Two Moments - Part 1 : The First Primal Scream Show. Published 24 April 2018 by Fernando Augusto Lopes http://www.botequimdeideias.com.br : “It wasn't a real band, the kind that play real shows,” Gillespie once said. “We were completely dissonant. It wasn't music, it was just breaking a few pieces and screaming. It was like two guys playing. You know, take a piece of metal and use it as drums, and then plug in the guitar. We were just making noise in Jim's room and we called it Primal Scream. This band was just in our heads. It didn't really exist, but we did a sound every night just to do something.”
In another interview, he said, “At first it was an experimental thing, just Jim Beattie and me trying to learn how to make music. I hit garbage cans and bits of metal. There was this big chimney, a metal central heating shaft or something, Jim would beat it with his hands and I would play a chord on the guitar and we would both scream and scream. That's all we did when we started the band, just total chaos. Noise, frustration, joy.”
1982 - The Laughing Apple split
Notes: Alan quits his job as ticket inspector at British Rail to co-found a new record label.
1982 - Jerry Thackray forms The Legend
1982 - Andrew Colin Innes and girlfriend form Revolving Paint Dream
Notes: Andrew is in two bands at the time, this and Biff Bang Pow!.
1982 - Dick Green & Alan McGee record Biff Bang Pow single Fifty Years Of Fun
1982 - Alan forms Creation Records
Notes: Named after one of his favourite bands 'The Creation'. Alan started the label with a £1000 loan. Joe Foster co-founded Creation with Dick Green and Alan. Joe would later become director of Alan's sequel label Poptones.
Creation's debut release is The Legend's single 73 in 83.
The second single is Revolving Paint Dream single Flowers In The Sky.
With Alan on bass, the third single is Biff Bang Pow - Fifty Years Of Fun.
1982 - Bobby tours with The Wake
Notes: From The Guardian Sunday 23 April 2006 15.06 BST article by James Brown: When the bassist of a group called the Wake, for whom he had been roadying, left on the eve of a gig supporting New Order in Bristol, Gillespie was asked to step in.
He learnt the songs in a night and then needed a bass. 'I asked Hooky if I could borrow his and he glowered at me and then said: "Of course". So that was my first gig ever, playing the Yamaha bass that had created that sound for "Love Will Tear Us Apart".'
The Wake - 11 September 1982 - Futurama 4, Deeside Leisure Centre
Country Of The Blind / The Drill / An Immaculate Conception / Heartburn / Uniform (Alternate Lyric) / Company
Bootleg: Cassette
02 November 1982 Tuesday - Henry Wood Hall, Glasgow, Scotland * Supporting: The Wake
(Unconfirmed The Wake set) The Drill / ''Unknown'' / Recovery / Heartburn / An Immaculate Conception / Country Of The Blind / Company
Notes: Bobby plays bass during The Wake's set. A bootleg recording of The Wake's set is available.
Bootleg: The Wake - Audience Recording - The Drill / 'Tune Ups' / ''Unknown'' / Recovery / Heartburn / An Immaculate Conception / Country Of The Blind / Company
Bootleg: The Wake - Audience Recording - Favour / Cold Home / Forced To Think / Patrol / Move With the Times / An Immaculate Conception
The Wake - 1983 - John Peel Session, BBC Radio, Studios, London
Notes: The Wake's only Peel Session. Bobby Gillespie played bass.
The Wake - 20 January 1983 - Great Hall, Cardiff University, Wales
The Drill / Uniform / Country of the Blind / Recovery / Host / Company / The Old Men
Bootleg: Cassette
28 January 1983 Friday - Night Moves, Glasgow, Scotland * Supporting: The Wake
04 February 1983 - Sound Of Music
Notes: Unconfirmed date, taken from promo poster/leaflet.
The Wake - 15 April 1983 - The Pavillion, Ayr, Scotland
Heartburn / Host / Recovery / Uniform / The Old Men / Something Outside / Country of the Blind / The Drill
Notes: Unconfirmed if Bobby was still playing bass for the band?
Bootleg: Cassette
1983 - Robert 'Throb' Young joins on bass.
13 August 1983 - The Living Room, The Adams Arms (Lukin), Conway Street, Camden, London * Supporting: The Television Personalities, Jasmine Minks
Unknown 1 / In The Morning Light / Unknown 2 / The Orchard / Unknown 3
Notes: The weekly music night would promote several of Alan's Creation bands. Bobby & Jim play their debut 'Primal Scream' show as a duo with a beat box. The beat box sounds similar to the one Jesus & Mary Chain used for their 1984 demos. The only recording only lasts 13 minutes but is said to contain the complete set.
Unknown 1 sounds like early New Order.
In The Morning Light sounds like early The Cure.
Unknown 2 sounds like a combo of New Order / The Cure and Public Image Limited.
Unknown 3 sounds like early New Order too.
Television Personalities headlined the first ever The Living Room show, Jasmine Minks were second on after Primal Scream opened.
Paul Groovy recorded the show and took photographs of the night. Paul published the fanzine 'Groovy Black Shades'.
The Pastels would soon follow in the next few months.
The venue would move to The Roebuck (108 Tottenham Court Road) in 1984 and The Jesus And Mary Chain would play their first London show at the new address.
The venue is now known as Lukin in Camden on Conway Street.
Creation's first LP compilation, released exactly one year later, was a compilation of recordings that took place in “The Living Room”, called “Alive In The Living Room”. LP / CD - August 1984 - Alive In The Living Room
From The Dawn Of Creation In Two Moments - Part 1 : The First Primal Scream Show. Published 24 April 2018 by Fernando Augusto Lopes http://www.botequimdeideias.com.br :
Thirty-five years go by. Alan McGee was an employee of the British railway company, but his passion for music was stronger. “Communication Blur”, his zine launched at that time, soon became what would become one of the most important labels in history, Creation. To start the business, he needed a loan of £1,000.
In the first few months, he released singles from obscure bands and others not so much, like Biff Bang Pow!, but nothing that relevant. What mattered was having fun and feeling important in the scene. McGee was only twenty-three years old.
One of the tricks was to promote shows. So McGee started “The Living Room,” a weekly night where he could introduce his label artists.
The event took place at The Adams Arms (now Lukin) on Conway Street in Camden, London. McGee got a room upstairs, where in the 1970s there was a stage for folk artists called Dingles. There was room for a tight crowd of up to one hundred and fifty people, but the brave and insistent McGee knew that achieving all that was an unspeakable victory. It was Television Personalities that played the first night, in August 1983. Creation's first LP, released exactly one year later, was a compilation of recordings that took place in “The Living Room”, called “Alive In The Living Room”.
Alan McGee is Scottish and he made a point of taking his countrymen to the room, including Jasmine Minks, The Pastels and, of course, Primal Scream, formed by his best friend Bobby Gillespie, as well as Jim Beattie and a drum machine.
McGee and Gillespie met in high school and formed a band together, Drains, in 1978, which also featured Andrew Innes (Biff Bang Pow!, Revolving Paint Dream and Primal Scream). The band didn't last long. McGee and Innes went to London and Gillespie formed Primal Scream with another friend, Beattie...
As soon as it happened, Gillespie flew to London to see his friends, who had already formed a band (with Ken Popple and Mark Jardim), Laughing Apple (listen to here and another one here). The quartet-sometimes-trio released an EP and two singles on Autonomy Record, which was a label formed by McGee himself, as no self-respecting label wanted to take on the endeavor. It was Gillespie who made the covers.
Gillespie saw the entire birth of the zine and then Creation and The Living Room. When he set up “The Living Room,” McGee wanted to fill one of his nights with his friend's band. It was a help from both sides: Gillespie didn't have a stage for his musical adventure until then – Primal Scream had already performed locally in 1982, but Gillespie himself doesn't consider it anything “official”. “Bob says it wasn't their first show, but it was the first they were announced as Primal Scream. It was Bob and Beattie and a tape machine, and they looked like PIL live.”
This performance took place on August 13, 1983. It was on the top floor of The Adams Arms and also had the live debut of another great band, Jasmine Minks (in addition to Television Personalities). On stage, it's Bobby and Beattie, the two of them alternating on vocals. In total, five songs and thirteen minutes of a performance for no more than two dozen people.
Who recorded this material and published the photos of the duo in his twenties was Paul Groovy, who had a zine called “Groovy Black Shades” (today with some material on the Internet, with a lot of rare stuff).
The prank at The Adams Arms didn't last long.
In 1984, McGee had to move “The Living Room” to another address and there will begin the second moment of Creation's dawn, when he and Gillespie will give the world another great band, The Jesus & Mary Chain...
Bootleg: Audience Recording (Paul Groovy Recording)
22 December 1983 - The Living Room, The Adams Arms (Lukin), Conway Street, Camden, London
Sister Ray (The Velvet Underground) - Painter Man (The Creation?) - Roadrunner (The Modern Lovers)
Notes: Bootleg notes 'Creation Records House Orchestra', unknown if Primal Scream members featured or not.
Bootleg: Audience Recording
1983 - Bobby and Jim returned to Glasgow.
Notes: They visited The Candy Club, an indie night run by Stephen Pastel (The Pastels) and Nick Low. Bobby soon became friends with Stephen and Nick. They explained Primal Scream and that they needed extra band members.
1984
1984 - Home Demos
Leaves / Gentle Tuesday
Notes: Home demos recorded with a drum machine.
Bootleg: Tomorrow Ends Today (Inner paper sleeve denotes '7/91' July 1991. PRSR-001 Made In Italy.) Side One (Matrix: PRSR - 001 - A). Side Two (Matrix: PRSR - 001 - B).) - Vinyl
1984 - Demos
Leaves / We Go Down Slowly Rising / Crystal Crescent / It Happens
Bootleg: Demos 1984, Peel December 1985, May 1986 (ARTISAN ART 7145)
1984 - Tom McGurk joins on drums.
1984 - The Orchard
Notes: Their first recording session, for Alan McGee's independent label Essential Records. Bobby's friend, Judith Boyle, was originally brought in to play violin. Bobby claimed that he was suffering with a cold when it was time to record his vocals so Judith recorded vocals too. Jim Beattie later claimed that they burned the master tape.
Jim Beattie said: ...We did a song called 'The Orchard'. Judith (Boyle) was playing violin with us and Bobby had a cold, so we got her to sing. This meant a girl was singing a lyric about a girl ...we burnt the master tape.
Bootleg: Tomorrow Ends Today (Inner paper sleeve denotes '7/91' July 1991. PRSR-001 Made In Italy.) Side One (Matrix: PRSR - 001 - A). Side Two (Matrix: PRSR - 001 - B).) - Vinyl
Bootleg: Primal Scream + More - Creation Sessions 1990 (2CD) (ARTISAN ART 3469 2CDr)
Bootleg: Various Cassettes []
1984 - The Candy Club
Notes: Nick Low gave Bobby a tape of a duo who might be interested in forming a band.
The legend was that Bobby was only interested in listening to the Syd Barrett recordings but when he flipped the tape over he discovered The Daisy Chain demos.
The band initially formed by William and Jim Reid, hailing from East Kilbride, were called The Poppy Seeds and then The Death Of Joey and then The Daisy Chain. They formed a band with, friend, Douglas Hart on bass and auditioned drummer Murray Dalglish in late 1982/early 1984.
The demo tape included four recordings by The Daisy Chain and Douglas's phone number.
Bobby rang the number and spoke to Douglas for hours about music, art, movies, books and local nostalgia too. Bobby soon arranged for the band to go to London to meet Alan McGee.
From The Dawn Of Creation In Two Moments - Part 2 : The First Show Of Jesus And Mary Chain. Published 05 June 2018 by Fernando Augusto Lopes http://www.botequimdeideias.com.br : After performing Primal Scream's first show at The Adams Arms in London on Alan McGee's "The Living Room" night, Bobby Gillespie returned to Glasgow.
There he found Stephen Pastel and Nick Low, who were doing what McGee was doing in London there: making room for new bands, at a place called The Candy Club. He and Primal Scream partner Jim Beattie were looking for people to play with them in the band. But they found another way.
“We were kind of in love with Syd Barrett's work and stuff, so Nick said there were two guys who started a band with that vibe. Nick received a tape from them that said 'you might like this'. That sound was unbelievable. Four songs: 'Upside Down', 'Inside Me', 'In A Hole' and 'Taste The Floor'. I thought it was a duo with synths, like Suicide. It was just noise with that guy singing over it, a bizarre vocal. They were called The Daisy Chain back then,” Gillespie says...His brother Jim, in an interview , confirmed Gillespie's story: "Bobby was listening to Syd Barrett and lucky for us our phone number was on that tape so he could call us and say 'my friend McGee in London will probably put you to play there”.
In fact, Bobby called bassist Douglas Hart. “We were on the phone for about three hours. We didn't know each other, but we had a lot in common – music, movies, books, that sort of thing. They were the only other people in Glasgow who liked that stuff, so I thought the guys were amazing, it was awesome.”
Besides the arts, Gillespie forgot to say that what united these boys was a predilection for certain hallucinogenic substances...
Bobby said: "I phoned the number on the tape and spent two hours talking to Dougie; total strangers talking about the books, films and records we loved. It was great because me and my mates had felt isolated, we thought we were the only guys around who liked what we liked."
08 June 1984 - Alan McGee signs The Jesus And Mary Chain to Creation Records
Notes: After the chaotic show at The Living Room, Alan signs the band.
The Jesus & Mary Chain - September 1984 - Upside Down Session
Notes: Murray Dalglish drums. Bobby was in the studio for the sessions.
1984 - Martin St. John joins on tambourine.
The Jesus & Mary Chain - Murray Dagleish leaves the band and Bobby joins the band on drums
Notes: Murray wanted to get paid more for playing than what the entire band got paid for the show. Bobby joined the band on drums.
Notes: From The Dawn Of Creation In Two Moments - Part 2 : The First Show Of Jesus And Mary Chain. Published 05 June 2018 by Fernando Augusto Lopes http://www.botequimdeideias.com.br :
Creation signed the band and soon released "Upside Down", the first single , which sold thirty-five thousand copies. The snobbish drummer Dagleish, who wanted to get paid for playing more than the band got from the clubs, ended up leaving. Bobby Gillespie stepped in ("We wanted Maureen Tucker, but we stuck with Bobby," McGee joked).
Gillespie had no idea how to play the drums. It just didn't matter. Standing, he beat the sticks and practically no one could hear behind that storm of hiss and noise. It was just energy. “He had that totally rock'n'roll image,” said Jeff Barrett, Jesus & Mary Chain's first manager and later Primal Scream press officer. Gillespie came in just in time. “Upside Down” put the band and Creation on the map...
11 October 1984 - The Venue, Scotland * Supporting: The Jesus & Mary Chain, Meat Whiplash, Ochre 5
JATMC: In A Hole / Vegetable Man / Inside Me / The Living End / Ambition / Taste The Floor / Barracuda
Notes: Primal Scream's "official" band performance. This was also the first show for Bobby playing drums for The Jesus & Mary Chain too.
Primal Scream opened the show.
In 2006 Bobby claimed the date to be 12 October, unconfirmed.
From The Guardian, Bobby said: "I was speeding out of my head one night and the drummer didn't turn up, so I went on stage, stood behind the drum kit and did my Mo Tucker bit. Never drummed before in my life, but it worked."
"My first gig with The Chain was my first gig with The Scream, simultaneously" Bobby recalled, "the poster was a picture from If...; there was Malcolm McDowell holding a hand grenade demanding, 'Whose Side Are You On?"
From The Guardian Sunday 23 April 2006 15.06 BST article by James Brown: 'Primal Scream started on 12 October, 1984,' he continues, with startling precision. 'Me and Throb are the only ones left from that line-up.'
From The Dawn Of Creation In Two Moments - Part 2 : The First Show Of Jesus And Mary Chain. Published 05 June 2018 by Fernando Augusto Lopes http://www.botequimdeideias.com.br :
Gillespie came in just in time. “Upside Down” put the band and Creation on the map. On October 11, 1984, in Glasgow, he debuted as drummer for Jesus & Mary Chain on stage. Primal Scream opened the night (which also had Meat Whiplash and Ocher 5). Bobby played in both bands and that would be the sign of the separation that would consolidate later. In the setlist , seven songs, less than fifteen minutes: “In A Hole”, “Vegetable Man”, “Inside Me”, “The Living End”, “Ambition”, “Taste The Floor” and “Barracuda”.
At that time, Jesus' concerts lasted from ten to fifteen minutes, because nobody could take more than that. And it was real chaos: shows were canceled by the police, by the owners of the establishments, etc. Brawls were not uncommon. In this way, the group's fame grew, as well as McGee's Creation, which at the turn of the year, managed a huge tour with the band and more others from the “Creation package” through Germany, Belgium, Holland, Denmark and Finland. Everyone got along...
The Jesus & Mary Chain - October 1984 - Islington
Notes: NME review the show. Bobby on drums.
The Jesus And Mary Chain - 1984 - John Peel Session, BBC Radio, Studios, London
Notes: Bobby Gillespie played drums.
16 December 1984 Sunday - 46 West George Street, Glasgow, Scotland * Supporting: The Pastels
The Jesus And Mary Chain - 29 December 1984 - ICA Rock Week, London
In A Hole / Vegetable Man / Taste The Floor / You Trip Me Up / Ambition / Jesus Suck
1985 - The Primal Scream is...
Bobby Gillespie
Jim Beattie aka Jim Navajo - Lead Guitar
Robert "Throb" Young - Bass
Martin St. John - Percussion / Tambourine
Tom McGurk - Drums
1985 - Rehearsals
Slow Death Song / Tomorrow Ends Today / Imperial / Aftermath / Sometimes Everything
Notes: Bobby & Jim demos
From 29 May 2021 NME Article By Will Lavin: ‘Tomorrow Ends Today’. It sounds like it could have been on the first Stone Roses record.” ... “...But ‘Tomorrow Ends Today’ sounds like a single. Why did we leave it off the album? It’s so good!
24 February 1985 Sunday - Lucifer's, Glasgow, Scotland
Bewitched and Bewildered / Crystal Crescent / It Happens / Hollow / Fever Claw / All Fall Down / Sometimes I Never / Leaves
Notes: From primalscreamofficial instagram page: Bobby Gillespie said: “One of the best songs we have ever written. Why didn’t we record it for our debut album? We must’ve been mad at the time not to. Now you can listen & enjoy it in its full glory.”
N - 1985 - Primal Scream sign to Creation Records
Notes: Alan McGee's label signs and funds the bands debut recording too.
The Jesus & Mary Chain - 1985 - The Jesus & Mary Chain release Never Understand
The Jesus & Mary Chain - 1985 - Pyschocandy Sessions, Southern Studios, London
The Jesus & Mary Chain - 1985 - North London Polytechnic
Notes: The infamous 'Riot' show.
From Out of the Void The Primal Scream Story Paperback:
He (Alan McGee) booked them a concert at the North London Polytechnic, a small venue frequented by students who had heeded the advice of the music press that fans reserve tickets in advance. The promoters and scarce security, who unwisely decided to admit people on a first-come-first-served basis, would not have a routine evening. Firstly, there was trouble outside the venue when scores of angry fans, many in possession of valid tickets, were turned away as the venue had already exceeded its capacity. Bobby and Douglas Hart attempted to kick open the doors to let people in and the police were called.
Then, once the show got underway, a technical fault turned the set into little more than a ten minute howl of feedback which moved the drunken band to leave the stage in disgust. Feeling short-changed, angry members of the audience then began to vandalise the stage and steal the band's equipment. Things got rapidly out of hand when the police arrived, as the looters fought amongst themselves using bottles and cans as weapons; eventually causing more than seven thousand pounds worth of damage to the hall. Having escaped the venue with their lives intact, the group's blasé statement declared that they were putting excitement back into rock 'n' roll and that the promoters would have to bear the consequences.
Although an isolated incident, it cemented the reputation of The Jesus And Mary Chain as the most notorious attraction on the guitar underground. The shrewd Alan McGee saw his chance and began to glibly spread all sorts of rumours, rumours that the band did little to deny. The fracas at the North London Polytechnic, it was claimed, was instigated by the band's management solely for publicity, a claim that, if true, worked an absolute sensation. The rest of the tour also turned out to be anarchic enough to force several promoters to cancel and soon everywhere that The Jesus And Mary Chain managed to book there were fears of disturbances and concern for audience safety. The press, needless to say, lapped it up.
The Pastels - May 1985 Saturday - CND Show, Kelvin Hall, Glasgow, Scotland * Support Act(s): Wet Wet Wet,
Notes The Saturday aftet the Heysel disaster. Bobby was playing guitar for the Pastels.
From The Guardian Sunday 23 April 2006 15.06 BST article by James Brown:
I first came across Gillespie crouched on the floor of Glasgow's Kelvin Hall on the Saturday after the Heysel disaster in May 1985, when he was playing guitar for the Pastels. It was a CND gig and I was there selling a fanzine. The band was playing alongside another new local group called Wet Wet Wet. Earlier, Chris from another fanzine called Slow Dazzle had introduced me to three guys with thick black curly hair and black army shirts. Jim, William and Douglas were the Jesus and Mary Chain, who were soon hyped as the new Sex Pistols, the band that gave Creation records a foothold in the world.
May 1985 - All Fall Down U.K. Release Date
Bobby Gillespie
Jim Beattie aka Jim Navajo - Lead Guitar
Robert Young - Bass
Martin St. John - Percussion / Tambourine
Tom McGurk - Drums
Co-Produced by Joseph Foster.
7inch Vinyl Creation Records CRE 017
All Fall Down
It Happens
Notes: The test press was finished and produced by Mayking Records Ltd. on the 16 April 1985. A Spanish Gentle Tuesday promo from 1988 noted the release date as June 1985.
Alan McGee said: "The vocals were done in one take. Bobby takes too long over them, he's totally paranoid and redoes everything about a thousand times, a total perfectionist."
Speaking to Neil Taylor, the NME journalist who first championed The Mary Chain, Bobby announced: "I don't want people to think 'oh that's the guy from The Jesus And Mary Chain, better check the single out', because that's just rubbish, it's second hand. I want people to appreciate us for what we are and not who our friends are. Remember, I was in this group before I joined the Mary Chain, and the only reason I joined them was because they needed a drummer and I could keep time."
22 May 1985 Wednesday - Thames Polytechnic, Woolwich
1985 - Bobby organises 'A Splash One Happening', Splash One Club, 46 West George Street, Glasgow, Scotland
Notes: Splash One hosted live bands, once a fortnite. Bobby would DJ at the shows too.
From The Guardian Sunday 23 April 2006 15.06 BST article by James Brown: A few months later and I am at the club that Bobby's now running, Splash 1, as near a Warhol Happening as you can imagine in a central Glasgow discotheque.
1985 - Paul Harte joins on rhythm guitar.
1985 - The Primal Scream is...
Bobby Gillespie
Jim Beattie aka Jim Navajo - Lead Guitar
Robert Young - Bass
Martin St. John - Percussion / Tambourine
Tom McGurk - Drums
Paul Harte- Rhythm Guitar.
22 June 1985 - Thames Polytechnic, London
Imperial / Sometimes I Never / Tomorrow Ends Today / Bewitched and Bewildered / Leaves / Aftermath / Crystal Crescent / Imperial - "Untitled"
Notes: Untitled is short improvised jam played after Imperial.
Bootleg: Tape - Secret History (Circa 1986/1987) (Transfer: ANA(2) > Nakamichi tape deck > Standalone CD recorder > CDR > FLAC(16/44.1)) Soundboard
Bootleg: CDR - Secret History (Nakamichi tape deck > (azimuth adjusted) - CDR) LP Demos / Radio Glasgow compilation (incorrectly tagged 1985 / 1986 John Peel Sessions) / 28 February 1986 - Town And Country / 22 June 1985 - Thames Polytechnic, London (noted as Copy of Creation Records Cassette) / 23 October 1985 - Hacienda, Manchester (1st Generation Audience Recording) / 18 August 1986 - Onion Cellar, Glasgow (Copy Of Master)
23 June 1985 - Ziggy's, Plymouth
Imperial / Sometimes I Never / Crystal Crescent / Bewitched And Bewildered / Tomorrow Ends Today / Fever Claw / Leaves / All Fall Down / Imperial / Aftermath / Hollow
Bootleg: Tomorrow Ends Today (Inner paper sleeve denotes '7/91' July 1991. PRSR-001 Made In Italy.) Side One (Matrix: PRSR - 001 - A). Side Two (Matrix: PRSR - 001 - B).) - Vinyl
25 June 1985 Tuesday - The Hacienda, Manchester * Supporting: The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Pastels, Meat Whiplash
Notes: Karen Parker played drums for The Jesus & Mary Chain at this show. Karen was apparently Bobby's girlfriend at the time. She drummed at this show as Bobby had hurt his hand the night before. She also sang backing vocals on The Jesus & Mary Chain's 'Just Like Honey' too. Ian Brown and John Squire of The Stone Roses attended this show.
June 1985 - A Splash One Happening 'Psychedelic Punk Soundtrack', 46 West George Street, Scotland - 25 June 1985 Sunday - The Pastels £2.50 Support Act(s): BMX Bandits
Notes: Unconfirmed date. Bobby apparently organished the show but would have been in Manchester with The Jesus & Mary Chain.
26 June 1985 - Rock City, Nottingham
Imperial / Bewitched And Bewildered / Aftermath / Sometimes I Never / Leaves / All Fall Down / Crystal Crescent
Bootleg: Jesus Suck! () Audience Recording
14 July 1985 - A Splash One Happening 'Psychedelic Punk Soundtrack', 46 West George Street, Scotland
Sometimes I Never / Subterranean / Bewitched And Bewildered / Aftermath / All Fall Down / Tomorrow Ends Today / Leaves / Imperial / Crystal Crescent
Notes: Recording date sometimes incorrectly noted as Clarendon Hotel Ballroom, London (see 20 October 1985)
Bootleg: () Audience Recording
18 August 1985 Sunday - Mardi Gras Club, Liverpool
26 August 1985 Sunday - A Splash One Happening 'Psychedelic Punk Soundtrack', 46 West George Street, Scotland
Notes: Bobby and the gang did not play but organised the Jasmine Minks to appear, Tickets £2.00.
1985 - Paul Harte leaves and is replaced by Stewart May on Rhythm Guitar.
1985 - Stewart May joins on rhythm guitar.
1985 - The Primal Scream is...
Bobby Gillespie
Jim Beattie aka Jim Navajo - Lead Guitar
Robert Young - Bass
Martin St. John - Percussion / Tambourine
Tom McGurk - Drums
Stewart May -Rhythm Guitar.
The Jesus & Mary Chain - 1985 - The Jesus & Mary Chain release Psychocandy
Notes: Creation Records sold 50,000 copies across the U.K. Creation records had to repress due to the popularity. The band were praised with media attention and Alan McGee ended The Living Room shows to invest his time in promoting the band. Blanco Y Negro was set up by Rough Trade's Geoff Travis with Warner Brothers' money, quickly offered a multi-album contract that included massive distribution and strong promotion. It was a proposition that Creation couldn't hope to match, so it was fairly inevitable that Jim and William would make the switch to the bigger label.
Unlike Creation, Blanco Y Negro could afford the fifteen thousand pounds or so it would cost for The Mary Chain to record a full length album. For the band, it was the obvious next step. Alan remained the band's manager and PR agent though.
The Jesus & Mary Chain - October 1985 - Bobby announces he is leaving The Jesus & Mary Chain
Notes: Bobby wanted to continue and devote all his time to Primal Scream. He would continue to play for the band live until early 1986 though. John Moore replaced Bobby on drums, who in turn was replaced by Martin Hewes and then James Pinker.
Bobby said: "I love The Jesus And Mary Chain, but they asked me to join the group, and I had to make a decision; with them I would have just been a drummer, with no real artistic input. The Mary Chain is just Jim and William, you know, I loved playing with them, it was the best time of my life."
20 October 1985 Sunday - The Clarendon Hotel, Hammersmith, London * Supporting: The Weather Prophets
I Love You / Subterranean / Aftermath / Imperial / Tomorrow Ends Today / Crystal Crescent
Notes: I Love You often incorrectly titled 'Slow Death Song' on bootlegs, Subterranean is sometimes noted as I Want You. Soundboard Recording features on the Vinyl Bootleg 'Tomorrow Ends Today'. A complete Audience Recording also exsists.
Bootleg: Touring London 1985 (1987 - Camden Market Tape with cover) Tape - 20 October 1985 - The Clarendon Hotel, Hammersmith, London: I Love You / Subterranean / Aftermath / Imperial / Tomorrow Ends Today / Crystal Crescent / 19 November 1985 - The Underground, Croydon, London: Imperial / Aftermath / Crystal Crescent / Tomorrow Ends Today / I Love You / Subterranean
Bootleg: Source 1: Tomorrow Ends Today (Inner paper sleeve denotes '7/91' July 1991. PRSR-001 Made In Italy.) Side One (Matrix: PRSR - 001 - A). Side Two (Matrix: PRSR - 001 - B).) - Vinyl - Side One - 20 October 1985 - Clarendon, Hammersmith, London - Slow Death Song / Subterranean / Aftermath / Imperial / Tomorrow Ends Today / Crystal Crescent - The Orchard (Aborted First Single) / Leaves (Demo with drum machine) / Gentle Tuesday (Demo with drum machine) / Gloria (April 1986 - Groningen, Holland) - Side Two - 23 June 1985 - Ziggy's, Plymouth - Imperial / Sometimes I Never / Crystal Crescent / Bewitched And Bewildered / Tomorrow Ends Today / Fever Claw / Leaves / All Fall Down / Imperial / Aftermath / Hollow
Bootleg: Source 2 (Complete recording) Audience Recording
23 October 1985 Wednesday - FAC 51 The Hacienda, 11-13 Whitworth Street West, Manchester * Supporting: The Weather Prophets
Love You / Subterranean / Aftermath / Imperial / Tomorrow Ends Today / Crystal Crescent
Bootleg: Tape () Audience Recording
Bootleg: CDR - Secret History (Nakamichi tape deck > (azimuth adjusted) - CDR) LP Demos / Radio Glasgow compilation (incorrectly tagged 1985 / 1986 John Peel Sessions) / 28 February 1986 - Town And Country / 22 June 1985 - Thames Polytechnic, London (noted as Copy of Creation Records Cassette) / 23 October 1985 - Hacienda, Manchester (1st Generation Audience Recording) / 18 August 1986 - Onion Cellar, Glasgow (Copy Of Master)
1985 ? - Middlesbrough
Notes: Unconfirmed probably 1986.
Bootleg: Edinburgh 85 + Croydon 85 + Middlesbrough 85 + Radio One Sessions (12 tracks) - Tape (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Originally Priced: £7) 27 October 1985 Sunday - Hoochie Coochie Club, Edinburgh / 19 November 1985 Tuesday - The Underground, Croydon / 17 September 1986 Wednesday - Middlesbrough Town Hall (unconfirmed if 1985 recording or this one)/ 01 December 1985 - John Peel Session / 06 May 1986 - John Peel Session / 07 July 1986 - Janice Long Session
27 October 1985 Sunday - Hoochie Coochie Club, Edinburgh, Scotland
Love You / Subterranean / Aftermath / Imperial / Tomorrow Ends Today / Crystal Crescent
Bootleg: Edinburgh 85 + Croydon 85 + Middlesbrough 85 + Radio One Sessions (12 tracks) - Tape (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Originally Priced: £7) 27 October 1985 Sunday - Hoochie Coochie Club, Edinburgh / 19 November 1985 Tuesday - The Underground, Croydon / 17 September 1986 Wednesday - Middlesbrough Town Hall (unconfirmed if 1985 recording or this one)/ 01 December 1985 - John Peel Session / 06 May 1986 - John Peel Session / 07 July 1986 - Janice Long Session
19 November 1985 Tuesday - The Underground, Croydon, London
Imperial / Aftermath / Crystal Crescent / Tomorrow Ends Today / I Love You / Subterranean
Bootleg: Touring London 1985 () Tape - 20 October 1985 - The Clarendon Hotel, Hammersmith, London: I Love You / Subterranean / Aftermath / Imperial / Tomorrow Ends Today / Crystal Crescent / 19 November 1985 - The Underground, Croydon, London: Imperial / Aftermath / Crystal Crescent / Tomorrow Ends Today / I Love You / Subterranean
Bootleg: Edinburgh 85 + Croydon 85 + Middlesbrough 85 + Radio One Sessions (12 tracks) - Tape (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Originally Priced: £7) 27 October 1985 Sunday - Hoochie Coochie Club, Edinburgh / 19 November 1985 Tuesday - The Underground, Croydon / 17 September 1986 Wednesday - Middlesbrough Town Hall (unconfirmed if 1985 recording or this one)/ 01 December 1985 - John Peel Session / 06 May 1986 - John Peel Session / 07 July 1986 - Janice Long Session
Bootleg: Cassette (Camden Market with cover)
20 November 1985 Wednesday - The Escape Club, Brighton
Imperial / Aftermath / Crystal Crescent / Tomorrow Ends Today / I Love You / Subterranean
Notes: Unconfirmed setlist.
Bootleg: Tape () Audience Recording
21 November 1985 Thursday - Ziggy's, Plymouth
01 December 1985 - John Peel Session, BBC Studios, London * Recorded: 01 December 1985 * Broadcast: 10 December 1985 * Repeated: 08 January 1986
Crystal Crescent / Aftermath / Subterranean / I Love You
Notes: Broadcast often noted as 11 December 1985.
Broadcast: 10 December 1985 - BBC Radio 1FM, John Peel Show - Anna Domino: Take That (single) / Bogshed: Fat Lad Exam Failure / Primal Scream: Aftermath (session) / Bushido: Time And Time Again (12" - Voices / Time And Time Again) Third Mind TMS 05 / Chills: Night of Chill Blue (session) / Robert Wyatt: Mass Medium (album - Old Rottenhat) Rough Trade ROUGH 69 / Giant Sandworms: Don't Turn Away (7") One Big Guitar OBG 001 / A Certain Ratio: Do The Du (album - The Old & The New) Factory FACT 135 / Primal Scream: Subterranean (session) / Chills: Brave Words (session) / Gene Loves Jezebel: Desire (single) / Pogues: Navigator (album - Rum Sodomy & The Lash) STiff SEEZ 58 / Primal Scream: I Love You (session) / Moodists: You've Got Your Story (12" - Justice And Money Too) Creation CRE022T / Chills: Rolling Moon (session) / Freeze Frame: Today / Tomorrow (7") Inevitable ZB 40305
Official: Reverberations (Travelling In Tme) 1985-86 CD / Vinyl
Bootleg: 08 January 1986 - The Peel Tapes Volume 3 BBC Radio One 1985 - 10 December 1985 (Primal Scream) & 11 December 1985 (Microdisney) (The recording date on the inlay card is 10th December 1985 for the first 16 tracks, which coincides with the broadcast date of the Primal Scream and Chills sessions; and the 11th December for the last 4, which again matches the broadcast date of the Microdisney session. Also, I've mixed records and sessions on the same tape, which I would normally separate. TDK AD60)
Bootleg: Complete BBC Sessions (Tape) - (Peel Session 1985/12/11) Aftermath / Love You / Crystal Crescent / Subterranean / (Peel Session 1986/05/28) Leaves / Bewitched and Bewildered / Tomorrow Ends Today / (Janice Long Session 1986/07/07) Silent Spring / Fever Claw / Velocity Girl / Imperial
Bootleg: Tape () (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Priced: £7) - Edinburgh 85 + Croydon 85 + Middlesbrough 85 + Radio One Sessions (12 tracks)
Bootleg: Demos 1984, Peel December 1985, May 1986 (ARTISAN ART 7145)
Bootleg: Edinburgh 85 + Croydon 85 + Middlesbrough 85 + Radio One Sessions (12 tracks) - Tape (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Originally Priced: £7) 27 October 1985 Sunday - Hoochie Coochie Club, Edinburgh / 19 November 1985 Tuesday - The Underground, Croydon / 17 September 1986 Wednesday - Middlesbrough Town Hall (unconfirmed if 1985 recording or this one)/ 01 December 1985 - John Peel Session / 06 May 1986 - John Peel Session / 07 July 1986 - Janice Long Session
Bootleg: CDR - Secret History (Nakamichi tape deck > (azimuth adjusted) - CDR) LP Demos / Radio Glasgow compilation (incorrectly tagged 1985 / 1986 John Peel Sessions) / 28 February 1986 - Town And Country / 22 June 1985 - Thames Polytechnic, London (noted as Copy of Creation Records Cassette) / 23 October 1985 - Hacienda, Manchester (1st Generation Audience Recording) / 18 August 1986 - Onion Cellar, Glasgow (Copy Of Master)
Bootleg: Live In London & Sessions 86 (Camden Market Style Cassette. Sleeve printed on lime green paper, photo of Bobby on the front. The photo would later feature on the Reverberations (Travelling In Time) compilation.) Tape -01 November 1986 - The Astoria, London - Imperial / ? / Silent Spring / (You'll Never Let Me Down) / Leaves / Subterranean (Do You Want Me Now) / May The Sun Shine Bright For You / Tomorrow Ends Today / (You're The One For Me) Bewitched And Bewildered / Gentle Tuesday (Gentle Tutor) / I Love You - 28 February 1986 - Town And Country Club - Subterranean (Do You Want Me Now) / Aftermath / Leaves / Crystal Crescent / Tomorrow Ends Today / Love You / Imperial / Velocity Girl - 01 December 1985 - John Peel Session - Aftermath / I Love You / Crystal Crescent / Subterranean (Do You Want Me Now) - 06 May 1986 - John Peel Session - Bewitched And Bewildered / Leaves / Tomorrow Ends Today - 07 July 1986 - Janice Long Session - Silent Spring / Fever Claw / Velocity Girl / Imperial
04 December 1985 Wednesday - The Creation Records Package with Felt, Weather Prophets and Primal Scream, The Dome, Tufnell Park, London
Subterranean / Aftermath / Crystal Crescent / Imperial / Tomorrow Ends Today / Love You
The Weather Prophets - Your Heartbeat Breathes The Life Into Me / Hollow Heart / Worm In My Brain / Love Song No.1 / Almost Prayed / Naked As The Day You Were Born
Felt - Textile Ranch / My Darkest Light Will Shine / The Day The Rain Came Down / Why Did You Have To Cry? / Caspian See / Ballad Of The Band / Grey Streets / Southern State Tapestry
Notes: Conflicting venue noted as 'The Boston Club'. Creation Records Night, as far as I know Primal Scream were on first, followed by The Weather Prophets and headlined by Felt.
No doubt the band hung out with future keyboard player Martin Bernard Duffy at this show.
Bootleg: Tape (Primal Scream, The Weather Prophets & Felt) Audience Recording
Bootleg: Tape (1st Generation Audience tape from master cassette) (2020, Dream Remastered, Reflecting Sound Studios, Southampton) Audience Recording
05 December 1985 Thursday - The Creation Records Package with Meat Whiplash, Primal Scream and Weather Prophets, Riverside, 57-59 Melbourne Street, Newcastle, NE12JQ * Doors Open: 19:30 - Last Admission: 22:30 * Ticket Price: £2 (Advance) £2.50 (On The Door)
Subterranean / Aftermath / Imperial / Crystal Crescent / Tomorrow Ends Today / Love You
Notes: Meat Whiplash first on, Primal Scream second and Weather Prophets were headlining. Posted denoted 'Riverside Members + Guess only. Tickets and Membership forms available from...' 'Membership forms must be received 48hrs prior to admission.'
1986
The Jesus & Mary Chain - 1986 - Bobby officially leaves The Jesus & Mary Chain.
Notes: Final show drumming for the band.
1986 - Primal Scream and The Jesus & Mary Chain feature in Bittersweet Fanzine
Notes: Yellow cover Bitter Sweet *Hate You*Love You* priced at only 50p. 'Welcome The New Soul Vision!' Other bands include Dexy's Midnight Runners, The Jam, Hurrah!, Biff Bang Pow, The Bodines, Soul Hate Truth, Love! The Go-Betweens, Jasmine Minks and more!
28 February 1986 - Town And Country Club, 9/17 Highgate Road, Kentish Town, London, NW5
Subterranean / Aftermath / Leaves / Crystal Crescent / Tomorrow Ends Today / Love You / Imperial / Velocity Girl
Notes: Subterranean noted on bootleg sleeve as 'Do You Want Me?'
Bootleg: Tape () Soundboard
Bootleg: Live In London & Sessions 86 (Camden Market Style Cassette. Sleeve printed on lime green paper, photo of Bobby on the front. The photo would later feature on the Reverberations (Travelling In Time) compilation.) Tape -01 November 1986 - The Astoria, London - Imperial / ? / Silent Spring / (You'll Never Let Me Down) / Leaves / Subterranean (Do You Want Me Now) / May The Sun Shine Bright For You / Tomorrow Ends Today / (You're The One For Me) Bewitched And Bewildered / Gentle Tuesday (Gentle Tutor) / I Love You - 28 February 1986 - Town And Country Club - Subterranean (Do You Want Me Now) / Aftermath / Leaves / Crystal Crescent / Tomorrow Ends Today / Love You / Imperial / Velocity Girl - 01 December 1985 - John Peel Session - Aftermath / I Love You / Crystal Crescent / Subterranean (Do You Want Me Now) - 06 May 1986 - John Peel Session - Bewitched And Bewildered / Leaves / Tomorrow Ends Today - 07 July 1986 - Janice Long Session - Silent Spring / Fever Claw / Velocity Girl / Imperial
Bootleg: Astoria 11/01/86, Town & Country 02/28/85? (ARTISAN ART 7646)
Bootleg: CDR - Secret History (Nakamichi tape deck > (azimuth adjusted) - CDR) LP Demos / Radio Glasgow compilation (incorrectly tagged 1985 / 1986 John Peel Sessions) / 28 February 1986 - Town And Country / 22 June 1985 - Thames Polytechnic, London (noted as Copy of Creation Records Cassette) / 23 October 1985 - Hacienda, Manchester (1st Generation Audience Recording) / 18 August 1986 - Onion Cellar, Glasgow (Copy Of Master)
06 March 198x Thursday - The Bunker, (Downstairs at) The Tropic Club (Basement) Hepburn Road, Stokes Croft, Bristol * Doors Open: 21:00 * Ticket Price: £2.50 * Supporting: Felt
Notes: The Chesterfields were first on stage, they would return to play here supporting Primal Scream on 08 May. Felt came back to play 24 April and Primal Scream returned 15 May to play too.
The Bunker hosted so many indie bands including The Brilliant Corners, The Flatmates, The Mighty Lemon Drops, The Soup Dragons, The Beloved, The Weather Prophets, Pulp, Sonic Youth, The Nightingales, Mighty Mighty, The Shop Assistants, Razorcuts, The Bodines, Blue Aeroplances, Jasmine Minks, Half Man Half Biscuit, The Primitives, The Wedding Present to name just a few.
06 April 198x - VERA 44 * £6.50 * Doors Open: 22:00 * Supporting: Weather Prophets
Notes: Unconfirmed date.
April 1986 - Groningen, Holland
Gloria (Them cover) - Stupid Girl (The Rolling Stones cover)
Notes: Gloria is a medley of covers.
Bootleg: Tomorrow Ends Today (Primal Scream PRSR-001 Made In Italy July 1991) - Hammersmith Clarendon 20 October 1985: Slow Death Song / Subterranean / Aftermath / Imperial / Tomorrow Ends Today / Crystal Crescent / - The Orchard (Aborted first single) / Leaves (Demo with drum machine) / Gentle Tuesday (Demo with drum machine) / Gloria (Groningen, Holland April 1986) / Ziggy's Plymouth 23 June 1985: Imperial / Sometimes I Never / Crystal Crescent / Bewitched And Bewildered / Tomorrow Ends Today / Fever Claw / Leaves / All Fall Down / Imperial / Aftermath / Hollow
1986 - Park Lane Studio (Opposite Queens Park), 974 Pollokshaws Road, Glasgow, G41 2HA
Velocity Girl (Alt. Mix)
Notes: Produced by Bobby Patterson.
Official: 2009 - Primal Scream appear on the Various Artists Compilation - Park Lane Archives (FREUDCD090 Jungle Records. Made In Scotland.) - Velocity Girl (Alt 7" Mix Version) aka (Alt. Mix)
April 1986 - Crystal Crescent U.K. Release Date
Velocity Girl - Written by Gillespie. Produced by Primal Scream.
7inch Vinyl Creation Records CRE 026
Crystal Crescent
Velocity Girl
12inch Vinyl Creation Records ?CRE 026T
Crystal Crescent
Velocity Girl
Spirea - X
Notes: A Spanish Gentle Tuesday promo from 1988 noted the release date as June 1986. Release date has been noted as May 1986 on the Maximum Rock 'n' Roll sleeve notes.
An alternative unused mix of Velocity Girl features on the 2009 Various Artists Compilation - Park Lane Archives. It was recorded at Park Lane Studio, Glasgow and was produced by Bobby Patterson (see above entry). I am not sure if Primal Scream finished the single recording there or recorded elsehwere.
From February 1998 - Uncut magazine Ian Brown interview: Did you steal the tune for Made of Stone from Primal Scream’s ‘Velocity Girl’? “No, I’d never heard it. John probably had, but he won’t have ripped it off because… I mean, this is what used to get me about Oasis at the start. Me and him (Squire) used to write loads of songs, but they’d be Beatles songs. We’d go, ‘Oh shit, it’s I Feel Fine’ or ‘Shit, it’s Daytripper’ and we’d sack it. Whereas these lads would just go with it. A long way!”
Decemember 2021 - Classic Rock Magazine - The Soundtrack Of My Life - 09 November 2021: Interview by Ian Fortnam: THE WORST RECORD I MADE - Crystal Crescent. The second single. I asked [label boss] Alan McGee not to release it. In my head it was like we recorded it too fast, didn’t take time to produce or arrange it, and just got this rush of energy – which is probably why some people liked it. But I knew it wasn’t right; too stuttering, too fast. Luckily everybody fell in love with its B-side [Velocity Girl] and forgot about it.
May 1986 - Primal Scream feature on various artists compilation - C86
Notes: Velocity Girl featured on the C86 NME compilation. The band did not want to be associated with the C-86 genre tag, Bobby Gillespie said that other groups in that scene "can't play their instruments and they can't write songs." The tracks exposure though helped them reach number 4 in John Peel's 1986 Festive 50 (Renowned Radio Show for indie and alternative fans).
Official: C-86 (NME) Cassette
04 May 1986 Sunday - 'A Splash One Happening', Splash One Club, 46 West George Street, Glasgow, Scotland * Ticket Price: £2.00 * Support Act(s): Submarines
06 May 1986 - John Peel Session, BBC Studios, London * Recorded: 06 May 1986 * Broadcast: 14 May 1986 * Repeated: 28 May 1986
Tomorrow Ends Today / Leaves / Bewitched And Bewildered
Notes: Possibly repeated 22 June 1986 & 07 July 1986, unconfirmed.
From primalscreamofficial instagram page: Bobby Gillespie said: Bewitched and Bewildered’ (John Peel Session, May 1986) - “One of the best songs we have ever written. Why didn’t we record it for our debut album? We must’ve been mad at the time not to. Now you can listen & enjoy it in its full glory.”
Broadcast: 1986 - BBC Radio 1FM, John Peel Show - Session: Half Pint: Greetings (LP - Greetings) Power House / Smiths: Bigmouth Strikes Again (7") Rough Trade (JP: 'Well if the LP is good as that, all of us here on the John Peel wingding will say THUMBS UP guys, those were the Smiths, Bigmouth Strikes Again, the new single. This is from the Redskins, our loony leftie spot tonight') [1] / Redskins: It Can Be Done (7") Decca # / John Cale: Taking It All The Way (session) / High Potent: H.P. Gets Busy (12") Get Live [2] / Shrubs: Down The Yard (v/a cassette album - Hits $ Corruption / Skin $ Bone)/ Hits $ Corruption / Primal Scream: Tomorrow Ends Today (session) / (JP: 'We could be faced here with another loony leftist spot, this is Jerry Lewis') Jerry Lewis: Uncle Sam Fantasy Land (7") Sunset / Mackenzies: New Breed (7") Ron Johnson / John Cale: Darling I Need You (session) / Jimmy Lewis: The Girl From Texas (v/a LP - One Minit At A Time) / Stateside / Big Stick: Jesus Was Born (On An Indian Reservation) (12" - Drag Racing) Blast First (Peel plays the wrong track) / Smiths: Money Changes Everything (7" - Bigmouth Strikes Again) Rough Trade / Bunk Johnson: Yaaka Hula Hickey Dula / Primal Scream: Leaves (session) / German Luga & Pissamambi: Granny Fit (7") Youth Promotion (My Top Ten trailer) / Leigen: Parties (v/a cassette album - Against The Tide: Portsmouth A Compilation) Bite Back! / Red Letter Day: Tomorrow Today (v/a cassette album - Against The Tide: Portsmouth A Compilation) Bite Back! / Psylons: Separate Ways (v/a cassette album - Against The Tide: Portsmouth A Compilation) Bite Back! / Divine Sounds: The Circus (Let's Get Stupid) (12" - My Mother) Reality / John Cale: Fear (session) / Cocteau Twins: The Thinner The Air (LP - Victorialand) 4AD (Singled Out trailer) / That Petrol Emotion: Mouth Crazy (LP - Manic Pop Thrill) Demon / Wayne Palmer: Ready Fe She (7") Bum Rock / Anthony Adverse: The Ruling Class (shared 12" with the King Of Luxembourg - The Ruling Class / Straits Of Malacca) Él / Sonic Youth: Halloween II (The First Studio Mix) (12") Blast First / Primal Scream: Bewitched And Bewildered (session) / Venus Envy: Space Rock "85" (12") Herb Jackson (American Bandstand trailer) / Head Of David: I'll Fall At Your Feet (LP - LP) Blast First / John Cale: You Know More Than I Know (session) / Top Of The Toppers: Starman (LP - Top Of The Pops - Vol. 25) Hallmark
Official: Reverberations (Travelling In Tme) 1985-86 CD / Vinyl
Bootleg: Tape () FM Recording
Bootleg: Complete BBC Sessions (Tape) - (Peel Session 1985/12/11) Aftermath / Love You / Crystal Crescent / Subterranean / (Peel Session 1986/05/28) Leaves / Bewitched and Bewildered / Tomorrow Ends Today / (Janice Long Session 1986/07/07) Silent Spring / Fever Claw / Velocity Girl / Imperial
Bootleg: Demos 1984, Peel December 1985, May 1986 (ARTISAN ART 7145)
Bootleg: Edinburgh 85 + Croydon 85 + Middlesbrough 85 + Radio One Sessions (12 tracks) - Tape (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Originally Priced: £7) 27 October 1985 Sunday - Hoochie Coochie Club, Edinburgh / 19 November 1985 Tuesday - The Underground, Croydon / 17 September 1986 Wednesday - Middlesbrough Town Hall (unconfirmed if 1985 recording or this one)/ 01 December 1985 - John Peel Session / 06 May 1986 - John Peel Session / 07 July 1986 - Janice Long Session
Bootleg: CDR - Secret History (Nakamichi tape deck > (azimuth adjusted) - CDR) LP Demos / Radio Glasgow compilation (incorrectly tagged 1985 / 1986 John Peel Sessions) / 28 February 1986 - Town And Country / 22 June 1985 - Thames Polytechnic, London (noted as Copy of Creation Records Cassette) / 23 October 1985 - Hacienda, Manchester (1st Generation Audience Recording) / 18 August 1986 - Onion Cellar, Glasgow (Copy Of Master)
Bootleg: Live In London & Sessions 86 (Camden Market Style Cassette. Sleeve printed on lime green paper, photo of Bobby on the front. The photo would later feature on the Reverberations (Travelling In Time) compilation.) Tape -01 November 1986 - The Astoria, London - Imperial / ? / Silent Spring / (You'll Never Let Me Down) / Leaves / Subterranean (Do You Want Me Now) / May The Sun Shine Bright For You / Tomorrow Ends Today / (You're The One For Me) Bewitched And Bewildered / Gentle Tuesday (Gentle Tutor) / I Love You - 28 February 1986 - Town And Country Club - Subterranean (Do You Want Me Now) / Aftermath / Leaves / Crystal Crescent / Tomorrow Ends Today / Love You / Imperial / Velocity Girl - 01 December 1985 - John Peel Session - Aftermath / I Love You / Crystal Crescent / Subterranean (Do You Want Me Now) - 06 May 1986 - John Peel Session - Bewitched And Bewildered / Leaves / Tomorrow Ends Today - 07 July 1986 - Janice Long Session - Silent Spring / Fever Claw / Velocity Girl / Imperial
1986 - The Boardwalk, Little Peter Street, Manchester, M15 4PS
Notes: The Boardwalk (Music Venue, Little Peter St., Manchester) ticket holders could get a £1 discount off The Hacienda club night entry on Fridays and Saturdays.
From The Guardian Sunday 23 April 2006 15.06 BST article by James Brown: Backstage at the Boardwalk in Manchester, Gillespie and co are receiving a lot of close attention from Manchester's groupie scene. Bobby is actually signing a girl's breast - outrageous, but also promising. Local goths the Stone Roses are taking note of the music.
15 May 198x Thursday - The Bunker, (Downstairs at) The Tropic Club (Basement) Hepburn Road, Stokes Croft, Bristol * Doors Open: 21:00 * Ticket Price: £2 * Support Act(s): The Chesterfields
Notes: Original date was noted on flyers as 08 May Thursday.
21 May 1986 Wednesday - Sermon Productions, Bay 63, 12 Acktown Road, London, W10 * Support Act(s): Blue Aeroplanes, Submarine
Notes: One of the adverts for the show noted the support act incorectly, billing them as ' Blue Areoplanes'
1986 - Clarendon Ballroom, Hammersmith, London * Support Act(s): Close Lobsters
Notes: Show played with Close Lobsters. Review from 21 June 1986 by John Wilde, photo taken by Jayne Houghton:
THESE SIMMERING Lobsters amputate the polish from the steamy body of pop, dislocating the scratch and the spite from the latest troop of shambling bores. At last, that green, gauche Undertones hum is ransacked and turned round anew; there's more than stuttering and slobbering at work here.
With singer Burnett proving an unnaturally excitable mainman, this blistering force shimmies and then stabs like sunburn in scalding bathwater. Anxiously intent, they appeal to the groin (first), the fluttering heart (second) and the groin (third). With paranormal audacity, they're walking a tightrope... but hell, that's where most of thier charm ferments, cheeky bastards.
Where most ot this desperate new pop comes breezing through like a clattering gabble of subterranean slipshod ersatz-punk, these five cardsharps apply the tonsil polish and torment the last breaths out of the ceiebrated jangle. With exorbitant vision, they should smash the rest to wood pulp.
Close Lobsters, part of Paisley's own buck-toothed bravado. run barefoot past the shambling shipwrecks, no extra chargo for tho velvet smiles and the crush on the singers thighs. They'll make your lips go smack, torment your spine; they're going to be hugely important to you.
After them, the Primals came on far too decently, too chaste to aid the chaotic possibilities. Their astutely coy la-la-la's cast a roving eye towards Shangri-La saccharin but their marzipan manners got buried in the trad Clarendon sound mire. They're going to have to fluster themselves to be the real sound of the summer, all this hooing and cooing getting no further than the backs of our necks. It could have had the decency to raise a tremor, but this might have been The Searchers doing 'Farmer John' backwards. Next to the racy Lobsters or the angelically askew Blue Aeroplanes, they seeped through the cracks, or sat on the shelf. Gillespie should know better: you have to interfere with our daydreams to count, to matter. There's a timid voice in there somewhere that wants corrupting. Primal Scream will be magnificent, eventually.
19 June 1986 Thursday - Chancellor Hall, Chelmsford
21 June 1986 Saturday - The Pub With No Name, Leeds
1986 - Primal Scream sign to Elevation Records
Notes: Alan McGee's newly set-up Warner Brothers subsidiary label Elevation Records. A spin off from Creation for WEA releases.
07 July 1986 - Janice Long Session, BBC Radio Session
Silent Spring / Fever Claw / Velocity Girl / Imperial
Notes: Date sometimes noted as 22 June 1986?
Broadcast: BBC Radio UK
Bootleg: Complete BBC Sessions () Tape - Aftermath / Love You / Crystal Crescent / Subterranean / Leaves / Bewitched and Bewildered / Tomorrow Ends Today / Silent Spring / Feather Claw / Velocity Girl / Imperial
Bootleg: Edinburgh 85 + Croydon 85 + Middlesbrough 85 + Radio One Sessions (12 tracks) - Tape (IAWS I Am Without Shoes / stoneroses.net (Will Odell). Originally Priced: £7) 27 October 1985 Sunday - Hoochie Coochie Club, Edinburgh / 19 November 1985 Tuesday - The Underground, Croydon / 17 September 1986 Wednesday - Middlesbrough Town Hall (unconfirmed if 1985 recording or this one)/ 01 December 1985 - John Peel Session / 06 May 1986 - John Peel Session / 07 July 1986 - Janice Long Session
Bootleg: Live In London & Sessions 86 (Camden Market Style Cassette. Sleeve printed on lime green paper, photo of Bobby on the front. The photo would later feature on the Reverberations (Travelling In Time) compilation.) Tape -01 November 1986 - The Astoria, London - Imperial / ? / Silent Spring / (You'll Never Let Me Down) / Leaves / Subterranean (Do You Want Me Now) / May The Sun Shine Bright For You / Tomorrow Ends Today / (You're The One For Me) Bewitched And Bewildered / Gentle Tuesday (Gentle Tutor) / I Love You - 28 February 1986 - Town And Country Club - Subterranean (Do You Want Me Now) / Aftermath / Leaves / Crystal Crescent / Tomorrow Ends Today / Love You / Imperial / Velocity Girl - 01 December 1985 - John Peel Session - Aftermath / I Love You / Crystal Crescent / Subterranean (Do You Want Me Now) - 06 May 1986 - John Peel Session - Bewitched And Bewildered / Leaves / Tomorrow Ends Today - 07 July 1986 - Janice Long Session - Silent Spring / Fever Claw / Velocity Girl / Imperial
A Splash One Happening 'Psychedelic Punk Soundtrack', 46 West George Street, Scotland - 14 July 1986 Sunday - Primal Scream £2 * Support Act(s): The Soup Dragons
Notes: Unconfirmed date.
23 July 1986 Wednesday - Institute of Contemporary Arts (ICA), London
Sonic Sister Love / Treasure Trip / Imperial / Bewitched and Bewildered / Aftermath / Silent Spring / Love You / May The Sun Shine Bright for You / Leaves / We Go Down Slowly Rising / Tomorrow Ends Today / Fever Claw / encore: Hollow / Subterranean / Velocity Girl
Notes: Bootlegs sometimes note the tracklist as: Country / Rock 'N' Roll / Imperial / Bewitched and Bewildered / Aftermath / Silent Spring / Love You / May The Sun Shine Bright for You / Leaves / Whats The Matter (We Go Down Slowly Rising) / Tomorrow Ends Today / Fever Claw / Encore Break - Subterranean / Velocity Girl
Bootleg: Audience
18 August 1986 Monday - The Onion Cellar, The Mission, Victoria Street, Edinburgh, Scotland * Doors Open: 21:00 Ticket Price: £2 * Support Act(s): Duglas (BMX Bandits)
Treasure Trip / Sonic Sister Love / Bewitched and Bewildered / Silent Spring / May The Sun Shine Bright for You / Leaves / ? We Go Down Slowly Rising / ? Fever Claw / Tomorrow Ends Today / I Love You / Subterranean
Notes: Onion? Odeon?
Bootleg: Edinburgh Onion 08/18/86 & Greenock 08/25/86 (ARTISAN ART 7146)
Bootleg: CDR - Secret History (Nakamichi tape deck > (azimuth adjusted) - CDR) LP Demos / Radio Glasgow compilation (incorrectly tagged 1985 / 1986 John Peel Sessions) / 28 February 1986 - Town And Country / 22 June 1985 - Thames Polytechnic, London (noted as Copy of Creation Records Cassette) / 23 October 1985 - Hacienda, Manchester (1st Generation Audience Recording) / 18 August 1986 - Onion Cellar, Glasgow (Copy Of Master)
25 August 1986 Monday - Bogie's Nightspot, Greenock, Scotland
Bootleg: Edinburgh Onion 08/18/86 & Greenock 08/25/86 (ARTISAN ART 7146)
28 August 1986 Thursday - Subterraneans, Greenock, Scotland
Sonic Sister Love (attempt) / Sonic Sister Love / Treasure Trip / Bewitched And Bewildered / Silent Spring / Hollow / We Go Down Slowly Rising / May The Sun Shine Bright for You / Aftermath / Love You / Tomorrow Ends Today
Notes: Sonic Sister Love is aborted as Bobby was being spat on by an audience member. The crowd and security eject the purpotrater. The band restart and carry on the set.
Bootleg: Audience
16 September 1986 Tuesday - Burberries, Birmingham * Support Act(s): Pop Will Eat Itself
Treasure Trip (Rock 'n' Roll) / Tomorrow Ends Today / Leaves / Hollow / We Go Down Slowly Rising / Silent Spring / Love You / Sonic Sister Love / Aftermath
Notes: Treasure Trip is often noted bootleg as Rock 'n' Roll. We Go Down Slowly Rising is noted as What's The Matter, Sonic Sister Love as Bewitched And Bewildered and Aftermath as Country on the bootleg cassette.
Bootleg: Audience Recording (Alan > Sony Walkman with external mic (WM-W800) > TDK D Cassette (master) > PC line in > Feurio CD manager (track splits and fade in start/fade out end) > CDR > EAC > WAV) Cassette
17 September 1986 Wednesday - The Crypt, Town Hall, Middlesbrough
Imperial / Sonic Sister Love / Treasure Trip / We Go Down Slowly Rising / Leaves / Silent Spring / Love You / Tomorrow Ends Today / Bewitched And Bewildered / Aftermath
Gloria (Them cover) - I Wanna Be Your Dog (The Stooges cover) - Search and Destroy (Iggy and The Stooges cover) - You're Gonna Miss Me (13th Floor Elevators cover) - Stupid Girl (The Rolling Stones)
Notes: During Leaves, before the solo, Bobby sings 'Bitch'. Gloria turns into a mammoth nine minute medley. False start for Silent Spring? The bootleg often notes the date, incorrectly, as 1987.
The Crypt was a room within the Town Hall.
Bootleg: Audience (Tape was switched over after Aftermath.) CD-R
20 September 1986 Saturday - Division One, Wendover
Treasure Trip / Sonic Sister Love / Leaves / We Go Down Slowly Rising / Silent Spring / Love You / Tomorrow Ends Today / May The Sun Shine Bright for You / Imperial / Aftermath
Bootleg: Audience () Tape
Bobby Gillespie
Jim Beattie - Guitar
Robert Young - Bass
Paul Harte - Drums
Martin St. John - Percussion
20 September 1986 Saturday - Division One Night, The Wellhead Inn, Wendover, Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire * Doors Open: 20:30-01:00am
Treasure Trip / Sonic Sister Love / Leaves / We Go Down Slowly Rising / Silent Spring / Love You / Tomorrow Ends Today / May The Sun Shine Bright For You / Imperial / Aftermath
Notes: Martin St. John is still in the band at this time.
Bootleg: Audience
05 October 1986 Sunday - Town And Country Club, 9/17 Highgate Road, Kentish Town, London, NW5 * Doors Open: 17:00 * Ticket Price: £4.50 (Advance) £5.00 (On The Door) * Supporting: Psychic TV
Sonic Sister Love / Treasure Trip / Leaves / “everything that you do” / Tomorrow Ends Today / Gentle Tuesday / May The Sun Shine Bright for You / We Go Down Slowly Rising / Imperial / Aftermath / Love You
Notes: Line up: Psychic TV , Primal Scream, Shock Headed Peters, The Godfathers, The Shamen. Primal Scream were second to headliners, info taken from gig poster.
Bootleg: Tape () Audience Recording
07 October 1986 Tuesday - The Leadmill, Sheffield * Supporting: Psychic TV
Notes: Line up: Psychic TV , Primal Scream, Shock Headed Peters and The Godfathers. Primal Scream were second to headliners, info taken from 04 October 1986 - Melody Maker Magazine.
18 October 1986 - Bridge, Aldershot
27 October 1986 Monday - Polytechnic, Leeds
28 October 1986 Tuesday - The Diamond Suite, Irish Centre, Digbeth * Doors Open: 20:00 * Ticket Price: £4 (Advance) £4.50 (On The Door) * Supporting: Julian Cope
29 October 1986 Wednesday - Bierkeller, Bristol * Doors Open: 20:00 * Ticket Price: £4 * Supporting: Julian Cope
01 November 1986 - The Astoria, London
Imperial / ? / Silent Spring / Sonic Sister Love (You'll Never Let Me Down) / Leaves / Subterranean (Do You Want Me Now) / May The Sun Shine Bright For You / Tomorrow Ends Today / (You're The One For Me) Bewitched And Bewildered / Gentle Tuesday (Gentle Tutor) / I Love You
Bootleg: Astoria 11/01/86, Town & Country 02/28/85? (ARTISAN ART 7646)
Bootleg: Live In London & Sessions 86 (Camden Market Style Cassette. Sleeve printed on lime green paper, photo of Bobby on the front. The photo would later feature on the Reverberations (Travelling In Time) compilation.) Tape - 01 November 1986 - The Astoria, London - Imperial / ? / Silent Spring / (You'll Never Let Me Down) / Leaves / Subterranean (Do You Want Me Now) / May The Sun Shine Bright For You / Tomorrow Ends Today / (You're The One For Me) Bewitched And Bewildered / Gentle Tuesday (Gentle Tutor) / I Love You - 28 February 1986 - Town And Country Club - Subterranean (Do You Want Me Now) / Aftermath / Leaves / Crystal Crescent / Tomorrow Ends Today / Love You / Imperial / Velocity Girl - 01 December 1985 - John Peel Session - Aftermath / I Love You / Crystal Crescent / Subterranean (Do You Want Me Now) - 06 May 1986 - John Peel Session - Bewitched And Bewildered / Leaves / Tomorrow Ends Today - 07 July 1986 - Janice Long Session - Silent Spring / Fever Claw / Velocity Girl / Imperial
M - December 1986 - Primal Scream feature in Delight In Disorder Fanzine No. 07
Notes: The Tidy Glasgow based indie fanzine. Priced at 30p.